Coronavirus outbreak

[SpokeyDokey]

Let’s not demonise students. The photos from many towns of people congregating outside pubs at 10.00 pm, going into off-licences, and on to house parties shows that non-students, of all ages, can be just as bad.

The specific problem in university cities is caused by having so many people in the same area (student accommodation) rather than any worse attitudes of students.

The last time I looked towns like Merthyr or Ebbw Vale, with high infection rates, don’t have universities.

I don't think that's demonising students at all. It's merely posting a current News article into the appropriate NACA thread with my view on it.

It's no different to the many posts regarding various sectors of society within NACA in general and the CV threads in particular.

If they were partying as reported then I stand by my comment as it's insane.

FTR: I agree with the sentence I've bolded above.

 

[tom73]

Let’s not demonise students. The photos from many towns of people congregating outside pubs at 10.00 pm, going into off-licences, and on to house parties shows that non-students, of all ages, can be just as bad.

The specific problem in university cities is caused by having so many people in the same area (student accommodation) rather than any worse attitudes of students.

The last time I looked towns like Merthyr or Ebbw Vale, with high infection rates, don’t have universities.

But that's too easy best to find a new scape goat before you get found out for using your current one.
High case numbers in other areas have been coming from areas of mass high density housing and households long before the students arrived. Unlike students they did not appear all at once and are mostly areas of poverty which no-one likes to talk about or give media air time to.

 

[mjr]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-54349548

If true this is insane. Partying students at Uni.

With 160ish unis, it was always likely to happen somewhere. The education ministers should resign for allowing student accommodation to reopen when we know worker accommodation has been outbreak hotspots.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

NACA thread

'scuse my ignorance - what is NACA?

 

[Mo1959]

'scuse my ignorance - what is NACA?

News and current affairs?

 

[vickster]

'scuse my ignorance - what is NACA?

This section of the forum

 

[fossyant]

Just been in our caravan site office to pay the bills and next year's deposit

The site is in Flintshire, cross the road to the field, thats Denbighshire. They can't drive a mile to Tesco, as thats in the next county, so can only turn left and drive 8 miles to the next shop.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

I don't think that's demonising students at all. It's merely posting a current News article into the appropriate NACA thread with my view on it.

It's no different to the many posts regarding various sectors of society within NACA in general and the CV threads in particular.

If they were partying as reported then I stand by my comment as it's insane.

FTR: I agree with the sentence I've bolded above.

Police had to break up student parties at Edinburgh Uni too last Friday

 

[Rusty Nails]

Just been in our caravan site office to pay the bills and next year's deposit

The site is in Flintshire, cross the road to the field, thats Denbighshire. They can't drive a mile to Tesco, as thats in the next county, so can only turn left and drive 8 miles to the next shop.

I must confess to having flouted the local lockdown restrictions yesterday.

I rode down to Cardiff Bay yesterday, crossed the barrage and rode back on the road along the side of Penarth Marina for less than a mile before crossing back into the safety of Cardiff to ride along the Ely trail.

I was a bit nervous at the far end of the Marina where there were a couple of armed policemen standing outside their van, but I think they were on a break from the Senedd, having a quick cup of coffee.

 

[mjr]

I rode down to Cardiff Bay yesterday, crossed the barrage and rode back on the road along the side of Penarth Marina for less than a mile before crossing back into the safety of Cardiff to ride along the Ely trail.

Did you pass any "Welcome to Glamorgan" signs or could you claim ignorance of the precise route of the border? Governments tend only to sign borders on the main motoring roads because cycling scum don't deserve to know which county they're in - or country! I've ridden over unsigned France-Belgium and Belgium-Germany crossings and I bet there's a fair few England-Wales ones unsigned.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Did you pass any "Welcome to Glamorgan" signs or could you claim ignorance of the precise route of the border? Governments tend only to sign borders on the main motoring roads because cycling scum don't deserve to know which county they're in - or country! I've ridden over unsigned France-Belgium and Belgium-Germany crossings and I bet there's a fair few England-Wales ones unsigned.

AFAIK no signs as the barrage and the bridge aren't highways.

I will claim ignorance of anything if it helps me.

Nerdy P.S. Glamorgan vanished years ago as a local authority or county. I went from South Glam to Vale of Glam and back.

 

[tom73]

Just out of interest how are the rules going down ? They sound pretty more firmer that here and already MP's are getting in twist about them not not mention joe blogs.

 

[fossyant]

Just out of interest how are the rules going down ? They sound pretty more firmer that here and already MP's are getting in twist about them not not mention joe blogs.

Not well I don't think. I suggested to the site staff that they jump on a bike to go to the shops, along the NCN !

 

[roubaixtuesday]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-54349548

If true this is insane. Partying students at Uni.

What on earth did we expect?

1) 18 year olds are at extremely low risk of any personal ill effects from meeting together - close to zero mortality at this age range, and only very occasional severe symptoms.

2) 18 year olds were stopped from taking final school exams, leaving events and the like, and put into close proximity with their families and nobody else for weeks or months on end.

3) We send hundreds of thousands of these 18 year olds away from home for the first time, to cities where they know literally nobody.

4) We expect them to meet no more than six together at once, and spend most of their time in a single bedroom attending online courses. And charge them nine grand for the experience.

It's insane that we ever expected this to work. It's doubly insane that nothing was done to mitigate this, except in a few institutions who have (off their own bat) instituted regular testing.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

What on earth did we expect?

1) 18 year olds are at extremely low risk of any personal ill effects from meeting together - close to zero mortality at this age range, and only very occasional severe symptoms.

2) 18 year olds were stopped from taking final school exams, leaving events and the like, and put into close proximity with their families and nobody else for weeks or months on end.

3) We send hundreds of thousands of these 18 year olds away from home for the first time, to cities where they know literally nobody.

4) We expect them to meet no more than six together at once, and spend most of their time in a single bedroom attending online courses. And charge them nine grand for the experience.

It's insane that we ever expected this to work. It's doubly insane that nothing was done to mitigate this, except in a few institutions who have (off their own bat) instituted regular testing.

I guess, with a modicum of effort, a case of some sorts could be made for every sector of society to flout the rules.