Coronavirus outbreak

[DaveReading]

Common sense regarding the current situation appears to be in short supply within certain age groups.

From the BMJ article referenced above:

"Behavioural research shows that risk taking peaks in young adulthood and that shaming them for risky behaviours is an ineffective public health strategy"

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

save pret and sod the NHS.

Yes that seems to be their order of priority

 

[tom73]

I'm no twitterer and I have no particular fondness for the LidlDems, but I can't find any trace of that screenshot post. It could be that he's implying that the ''Rik'' he's replying to cannot tell the difference between inhalation protection and exhalation protection. Or it could also be that he's a wazzock.

No you have it right going on his twitter feed he's a first case one.

 

[kingrollo]

pre lockdown I attended a hospital gym at least 3 times a week. I am beginning to feel the effects of not going - the gym rarley had more than 5 people in even when operating before lockdown - apparently its even less now.

Got the revised guidelines from the gym which says "Face masks are not recommended whilst working out" - I can understand that for cardio - but Id be doing light weights - Would wearing a mask do more harm than good ?

 

[icowden]

I can't see why they would do any harm for cardio or weights unless they were severely restricting air flow. They might be uncomfy and annoying but that's about it. In terms of doing good, the major part of mask wearing is about not spreading rather than prevention of catching, so unless everyone wears masks there may ultimately not be much benefit.

 

[Julia9054]

I can't see why they would do any harm for cardio or weights unless they were severely restricting air flow. They might be uncomfy and annoying but that's about it. In terms of doing good, the major part of mask wearing is about not spreading rather than prevention of catching, so unless everyone wears masks there may ultimately not be much benefit.

Quite.
The guidance from my school is that masks are recommended in the corridors but not compulsory. We will see next week how many wear them but if it’s only a handful then there really is no point to it

 

[PK99]

Seems to be more due to lots of cases in factories. The numbers are very low in these parts, lots of pubs and restaurants. No factories

"It must be down to opening pubs..." is yet another COVID related example of confirmation bias which is one of the depressing things about so many COVID views - folks took a position early on and now seek to defend it and are very selective in the information they seek and how they interpret it.

 

[Julia9054]

"It must be down to opening pubs..." is yet another COVID related example of confirmation bias which is one of the depressing things about so many COVID views - folks took a position early on and now seek to defend it and are very selective in the information they seek and how they interpret it.

My year 7s can tell you that when you do an investigation, you change only one thing and keep confounding variables constant.
The government opened lots of things at once. With no effective test and trace system in place, we can’t say with any confidence which is causing the uptick in cases

 

[PK99]

From the BMJ article referenced above:

"Behavioural research shows that risk taking peaks in young adulthood and that shaming them for risky behaviours is an ineffective public health strategy"

No shoot Sherlock! Who could have known such a thing?!

 

[PK99]

The problem wrt young people and COVID rules is that, demonstrably, the risk TO them is very small. The issue is that the risk FROM them if they are carrying the virus asymptomatically is large.

That is a difficult message to get across.

 

[kingrollo]

"It must be down to opening pubs..." is yet another COVID related example of confirmation bias which is one of the depressing things about so many COVID views - folks took a position early on and now seek to defend it and are very selective in the information they seek and how they interpret it.

If being crowded indoors is a transmission route - that from what I have seen that would be a factor.

 

[kingrollo]

The problem wrt young people and COVID rules is that, demonstrably, the risk TO them is very small. The issue is that the risk FROM them if they are carrying the virus asymptomatically is large.

That is a difficult message to get across.

Have to be honest it wouldn't have cut it with me when I was young.

 

[PK99]

If being crowded indoors is a transmission route - that from what I have seen that would be a factor.

We made good just of EOTHO and found the COVID precautions in each and every pub and restaurant we used to be very good.

Fewer tables, fellow punters a decent distance away. Waiter service to tables, even if selected at the bar - in several, no contact by Waiter with the drinks they were bringing on a tray. etc etc

 

[kingrollo]

We made good just of EOTHO and found the COVID precautions in each and every pub and restaurant we used to be very good.

Fewer tables, fellow punters a decent distance away. Waiter service to tables, even if selected at the bar - in several, no contact by Waiter with the drinks they were bringing on a tray. etc etc

Thats good to hear - and that was my experience at first. But here in the west midlands thats not what Ive seen over the past week or so. One pub the bar was operating totally as normal - no Q then wait to be called - or people standing 2m apart. - I even seen someone told off for taking photos (presumably as pub was worried about these circulating on line)

 

[marinyork]

Pubs are highly visible places. Most of us have little idea of what is going on in peoples' homes, it's basically cross your fingers.

The pubs one, if you're going to moan about pubs at least do it properly. When I travel past pubs I see a lot of people 50s-70s. Same in cafes. Same in restaurants. People under 25 are convening in large groups in parks and other outdoor places. I suspect there may be indoor household mixing a lot based on what people have said.

A lot of people say exactly what some of the people on this thread do, then when a person who may judge them is out of earshot, they'll say they have been on holiday, to the salon, to large shopping centres, eating out regularly etc. I'm all right Jack. The virus is always other peoples' fault and other people should be careful so I can do whatever I want. I've seen so much of this the last month. People need to stop doing this and limiting contact a bit and others doing a bit more than they are.