A lot of talk yesterday of why face covering won't be used in English schools it's just one big game of bull s**t bingo. It sounds more a political move then a public health one. Just get a grip and use them if students in a school are able to use them and support using them.
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roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
The significance seems very unclear right now. Seems it could be anything from absolutely terrible to utterly irrelevant, depending on how representative it is, and how much the first infection protected against the symptoms of the second.
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
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Indded the going back to school is safe and refusing to answer the question “for whom, just the kids, or everyone they come into contact with”. Kids might not get very sick, doesn’t mean they can’t spread it to adults around them.
Slick
Guru
As a college, we already took the decision to use them in classrooms only as learners stay in the same class from start to finish of their course and the building has corridors and passageways wide enough to maintain the 2m distance. I think Scotland will announce shortly something similar in schools as it's already obvious that's where a number of cases is now coming from.
A simple and practical solution to a problem it's not difficult. Be interesting to see if school's who are asking for advice or use lack of it to for not using them. Are the ones who have been happy to use pointless none clinical temperature checks at the door. Which are not advised either.
To be fair DCMO Jenny Harries got wheeled on the tv yesterday and pointed out a concerning bit to PHE was teachers spreading it to other teachers and this was a potentially a risk not being taken seriously.
Julia9054
Guru
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This statement was based on a study done in primary schools. Evidence is beginning to show that whist children under 10 don't transmit the virus efficiently, those over 10 appear to have the same transmission rate as adults.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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- South Manchester
One of my colleagues fell ill with CV at the start of lockdown and was very poorly. She's recently tested positive again, and her dad is now on a ventilator. I think some folk carry the virus longer and are getting ill again as its not completely cleared up.
There is a thread on singletrack with folk who have been suffering months.
That's nothing new, everybody here knows that. As said previously there is a lot of focus about how 'unsafe' primary schools are and very little focus on secondary schools, colleges or universities which are higher risk. A secondary school here got told by the council it couldn't implement it's plans, I would imagine like quite a few other secondary schools.
Society and workplaces seems a bit split on this, rather like DCLane I had someone with puzzlement yesterday ask why the heck my uni was going back face to face. Oh you'll not be back to March, don't worry. Well yes there will probably be a second wave around November, but we are still all getting sent back in September.
Slick
Guru
As if by magic, Scotland announces face coverings must be worn in schools from Monday.
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
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No surprise there. If there is science behind wearing masks it doesn’t suddenly stop applying once in schools.
Yep opening them is not the problem keeping them open is hard part. So much of this has been playing to gallery and little effort into who or what's the greasiest risk. How to minimise the risk and what simple messaging need's to go along side it. Once schools get going to keep them open local public health will have to take the lead. Sadly if round here is to anything to go by. That too has been totally taken over by political games. What's not helping is the patch work of school management set's up we now have.
The Pediatrician advising the government look's to believe just that from what he's been saying. It's if by magic young people don't catch Covid once in school.
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From the link:
The King's College London study of 10 UK hospital sites plus one in Italy found at least one in eight patients who had received hospital treatment for coronavirus had caught it on-site.
Researchers said that was a relatively low rate and showed there was effective infection control in place.
I have no knowledge of intra-hospital infection rates but is that really a 'relatively low rate'?
