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RoadRider400

Some bloke that likes cycling alone
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53769749

BBC reports from a few venues in the south west that eat out to help out is causing what I would just call greed.

Article doesnt make much sense to me.

"People are ordering big, big meals; they are not willing to wait for their food; our staff are being shouted at for having no tables, or for the service being slow. It's put an awful lot of strain on our waiting staff and kitchen staff."

Surely if you have x number of tables in the restuarant you should have kitchen and waiting staff numbers capable of servicing x number of tables, doesnt matter who is paying for the food. If you cannot service full capacity during the week due to fewer staff then dont fill them all. Sounds like the owners are being just as greedy as the customers. Notwithstanding that there is no excuse for rudeness towards staff.
 
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Article doesnt make much sense to me.

"People are ordering big, big meals; they are not willing to wait for their food; our staff are being shouted at for having no tables, or for the service being slow. It's put an awful lot of strain on our waiting staff and kitchen staff."

Surely if you have x number of tables in the restuarant you should have kitchen and waiting staff numbers capable of servicing x number of tables, doesnt matter who is paying for the food. If you cannot service full capacity during the week due to fewer staff then dont fill them all. Sounds like the owners are being just as greedy as the customers. Notwithstanding that there is no excuse for rudeness towards staff.

People are turning up when there is not enough room and complaining. Restaurants having to adjust staffing levels for what were off-peak days. Greedy customers taking advantage of the discount to stuff themselves with cheaper food.
 

RoadRider400

Some bloke that likes cycling alone
People are turning up when there is not enough room and complaining. Restaurants having to adjust staffing levels for what were off-peak days. Greedy customers taking advantage of the discount to stuff themselves with cheaper food.
Not sure what your point is. All of those can be overcome by the a manager or owner taking control of staffing levels and working the door at busy times. If they can't do that then they are in the wrong job. Surely greedy customers stuffing themselves with cheap food is in the interests of the venue. They still get paid full price.
 

Adam4868

Legendary Member
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53769749

BBC reports from a few venues in the south west that eat out to help out is causing what I would just call greed.
Mon,Tues,Weds you've no chance of getting in a resteraunt round here without queueing.
On a similar note tried booking a few in Llandudno this week as going to see partners sister.All we tried were fully booked Wednesday !
Guess that eat out to help out has proved popular.
 

Rezillo

TwoSheds
Location
Suffolk
Can't help think it would have saved a lot of work by just giving PHE the money and capacity to Test and Trace in the first place.

The bottom line here is NHS test and trace is Serco test and trace so NHS PHE overnight is privatised. Funny enough Dido's husband a Tory MP advisers the 1828 Tory think tank which has called for PHE to go and a US type of health care. So take as a given Dido set to be running the show ?

What's remarkable is that the people with years of experience in the field of testing and tracing with respect to notifiable diseases are already out there sitting in local authorities, under the control of DPHs, largely doing nothing because they've been excluded from the process. We even had systems for scaling up by training existing staff in other departments to help in the event of ID outbreaks affecting hundreds of people.

The only thing that has been missing is the system for linking their findings into a national network for daily reporting. I could see that this would need private sector involvement, given my experience of LA and NHS IT systems. I see some DPHs/LAs have now decided to go their own way on this and I don't blame them.

A while back, I rang my old team, expecting them to be out and about interviewing and perhaps worried about the risk to their own health but I needn't have been concerned - their own involvement in the process was zero.
 
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Not sure what your point is. All of those can be overcome by the a manager or owner taking control of staffing levels and working the door at busy times. If they can't do that then they are in the wrong job. Surely greedy customers stuffing themselves with cheap food is in the interests of the venue. They still get paid full price.

Restaurant owners are having to deal with larger number of customers on certain days while having to reduce their capacity to deal with social distancing requirements. That some are struggling to cope is not surprising given how different the situation is to their normal operations, and I doubt it is down to greed, having been shut for so long, more like survival.

Imo bargain hunters looking for something for next to nothing are mostly the greedy ones.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
New Zealand isn't a realistic comparison, Germany is.
Why is a federal state with many land borders a better comparison with the UK than a unitary island state?
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
This is an interesting read about the stats of recording covid deaths, I always wondered why the new headline statistic was a death within 28 days of initial positive swab.
I seem to slowly be hearing of covid survivors who are months later falling with heart attacks or lung problems when, as far as I know, they hadn't known problems before. Presumably, they won't be counted as covid deaths unless they test positive again but it's difficult to see what else they really are. I think the excess deaths figures are far more realistic because they will capture these.
 

Milzy

Guru
Historically humans on earth have always put the economy/profits before human life.
Why change now? Have we suddenly decided that life is more precious than anything and that up to 2% of the world's population dying isn't acceptable?
Banning private owned diesel cars and coal power stations would save just as many lives.
I can't do with conspiracy theories but a few folk are saying the economy is been crashed on purpose. What if they're right?
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
What's remarkable is that the people with years of experience in the field of testing and tracing with respect to notifiable diseases are already out there sitting in local authorities, under the control of DPHs, largely doing nothing because they've been excluded from the process. We even had systems for scaling up by training existing staff in other departments to help in the event of ID outbreaks affecting hundreds of people.

The only thing that has been missing is the system for linking their findings into a national network for daily reporting. I could see that this would need private sector involvement, given my experience of LA and NHS IT systems. I see some DPHs/LAs have now decided to go their own way on this and I don't blame them.

A while back, I rang my old team, expecting them to be out and about interviewing and perhaps worried about the risk to their own health but I needn't have been concerned - their own involvement in the process was zero.

Exactly it’s been going on for years contact tracing is nothing new. If governments had not been hollowed out , sold of and down graded public health. We‘d have had no need to panic and build a system capable of being scaled up. Saving time and the total balls up along the way.
The fact that at one point we only had national capacity for about 70 test a day say’s it all.

As for private involvement Serco don’t even let Serco anyway near Health Care in Serco ran prisons.
Even with private involvement it’s still not working how a glorified failed mobile phone monkey. Over night becomes an expert in public health is beyond believe. Handing over even more public health to her is way past a joke.
 
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