Coronavirus outbreak

[Ming the Merciless]

A colleague is self-isolating after returning from Thailand with a sore throat. Gets tested tomorrow

Got to be careful with o*al s*x

 

[kingrollo]

That's out of those who've been tested. If you have the symptoms but haven't been to non UK affected areas or knowingly been in contact with someone who has, then they are not interested in testing you.

Yup - thats another reason why italys stats are so high - I believe there testing is symptom driven.
I did here that we were to switch to symptom testing this week - but believe this isn't happening now (or not this week)

 

[Archie_tect]

Friend's comment which I've pinched...

Scientists say, "you should be sure to wash your hands thoroughly because of Coronavirus"
People, "I'm going to stop flying, hoard masks and toilet rolls, work from home and completely change my life."

Scientists say, "The climate change crisis will kill millions - we must use clean power and change how we get to work"
People, "No way, sod off!"

 

[Blue Hills]

Canale5.

The dreaded canale cinque?
Always avoided the berlusconi monstrosity when in italy.
Guaranteed to bring anyone out in a rash.

 

[Blue Hills]

Is it just the usual Italian media practice of cranking things up even further or is there evidence of this from government sources?

Italian media went bonkers when there was flu)bird swine or whatever in the uk a few yearsvago. An italian visitor to me in london was bombarded with lots of texts every day from family members saying COME BACK NOW. Later i was in italy and one of the more measured members of the family told me that there was a theory going round that the alarm about foreign travel from berlusconi and other channels had been a ploy to get italians to spend their money at home during the peak summer holiday period. Italy is the home of conspiracy theories.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Italy is the home of conspiracy theories

I know but I still love the place.

 

[Blue Hills]

I was wondering about that too, and also if it could be like seasonal flu and come back another year as a different strain.

Not aware anyone answered me or you @Mo1959
So, if you have already had the thing (and of course you could have had it and not been aware/sailed through) does this mean that you can no longer get it or pass it on?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Not aware anyone answered me or you @Mo1959
So, if you have already had the thing (and of course you could have had it and not been aware/sailed through) does this mean that you can no longer get it or pass it on?

As I understand this, it is too early to know.

But the probability is that once you've had it you will not get it again, and will not continue to be infectious. You will likely be immune to the current strain in future, but the level of your immunity to future strains as the virus evolves will be somewhat lower - exactly how much lower is impossible to say.

Just my understanding, open to correction.

 

[tom73]

At the building where my daughter works, security staff won't let you beyond reception until they've tested your temperature and it shows normal. Sure hope they're not using rectal thermometers.

How do they know ? Who trained them? What plans are place to manage the equipment ? I take it no-one knows ? Temp checks are not reliable and can lead to too many false positives. Just what the NHS need's at the time. I have to say I would politely tell them get off and walk out the door.

I was reading a story today of a company that have timers and make staff wash hands every 30 mins. Again I'd tell them to stuff it. It's not based on sound clinical evidence.

 

[tom73]

Do I have a hearing problem when the CMO , CSO or the government say "wash your hands" I'm not hearing go out and panic buy bog roll, pasta, beans. Soap, hand gel and anything else even if I don't like it what ever you do just panic?

 

[kingrollo]

How do they know ? Who trained them? What plans are place to manage the equipment ? I take it no-one knows ? Temp checks are not reliable and can lead to too many false positives. Just what the NHS need's at the time. I have to say I would politely tell them get off and walk out the door.

I was reading a story today of a company that have timers and make staff wash hands every 30 mins. Again I'd tell them to stuff it. It's not based on sound clinical evidence.

What is the sound clinical evidence though ?

Wash your hands and sing happy birthday ?

I can't help thinking the UK approach is like this is some sort of a storm that will pass through quickly - and barring a rough couple of weeks we should be mostly ok.

Yet look at the measures china had to take and Italy is now being forced to take.....

I can't say the "bring it on" approach inspires me with much confidence. I think BJ may as well tell us all to buy lucky horseshoes !

 

[kingrollo]

Do I have a hearing problem when the CMO , CSO or the government say "wash your hands" I'm not hearing go out and panic buy bog roll, pasta, beans. Soap, hand gel and anything else even if I don't like it what ever you do just panic?

I think one policitan unprompted said "we have enough toilet rolls"
Trust in politicians is so low that everyone interpreted this as "feckin hell there's a bog roll shortage".....

 

[tom73]

What is the sound clinical evidence though ?

Wash your hands and sing happy birthday ?

I can't help thinking the UK approach is like this is some sort of a storm that will pass through quickly - and barring a rough couple of weeks we should be mostly ok.

Yet look at the measures china had to take and Italy is now being forced to take.....

I can't say the "bring it on" approach inspires me with much confidence. I think BJ may as well tell us all to buy lucky horseshoes !

Sound clinical eveince is based on sound evidence and research. Not blind panic every county will have to do things differently based on a number of things population make up, movements within it, social interaction trends ect. Plus what planning and systems are in place to deal with stuff like this. The Uk is well prepared for stuff like this planning is always on going. I've been part of it be it at a local level so know how it works and what detail it go's into.

Hand washing is the best way everyone can on a day to day level keep this thing at bay. It's fact not fiction or a case of the government just fobbing it off.

Any move on to next stage has to a measured one and timed right or it will make things even worse.

 

[tom73]

I think one policitan unprompted said "we have enough toilet rolls"
Trust in politicians is so low that everyone interpreted this as "feckin hell there's a bog roll shortage".....

Then they are fools.

 

[kingrollo]

Sound clinical eveince is based on sound evidence and research. Not blind panic every county will have to do things differently based on a number of things population make up, movements within it, social interaction trends ect. Plus what planning and systems are in place to deal with stuff like this. The Uk is well prepared for stuff like this planning is always on going. I've been part of it be it at a local level so know how it works and what detail it go's into.

Hand washing is the best way everyone can on a day to day level keep this thing at bay. It's fact not fiction or a case of the government just fobbing it off.

Any move on to next stage has to a measured one and timed right or it will make things even worse.

If hand washing was the best way of keeping it at bay - why are some countries locking down whole cities ?