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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
My employer has now said no international travel for work, unless absolutely necessary.
 
We can however do some rough What-if's based on such attitude / inaction.

The population of the lockdown area in Hubei is c60 millions, not that different to the population in UK.

With major intervention, they "achieved" the result of c100,000 infected, c3000 dead. 100,000 is only 0.17% of 60 millions.

In UK, the worst case scenario has been set at 80% infected by the government. Let's say that is pessimistic, and call it 50% with little intervention. If we simply scale it based on the Hubei statistics, that translates to c900,000 dead.

Except that in Hubei, they managed to draft in 40,000 healthcare professionals from elsewhere in the country to help the 100,000. With 50% of 60 millions infected in UK, those requiring intensive care would number millions - meaning the vast majority of them would get ZERO medical attention - medics get infected, e.g. from family members, too. So, 900,000 dead would likely be a VERY optimistic number in such a scenario.

That is the kind of place where complacency can get us. Just saying.
I don't think it's complacency - there isn't an easy option - let it rip through and see where we are in July seems to be the vibe I am picking up.
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
We can however do some rough What-if's based on such attitude / inaction.

The population of the lockdown area in Hubei is c60 millions, not that different to the population in UK.

With major intervention, they "achieved" the result of c100,000 infected, c3000 dead. 100,000 is only 0.17% of 60 millions.

In UK, the worst case scenario has been set at 80% infected by the government. Let's say that is pessimistic, and call it 50% with little intervention. If we simply scale it based on the Hubei statistics, that translates to c900,000 dead.

Except that in Hubei, they managed to draft in 40,000 healthcare professionals from elsewhere in the country to help the 100,000. With 50% of 60 millions infected in UK, those requiring intensive care would number millions - meaning the vast majority of them would get ZERO medical attention - medics get infected, e.g. from family members, too. So, 900,000 dead would likely be a VERY optimistic number in such a scenario.

That is the kind of place where complacency can get us. Just saying.
Well thats cheered me up no end :wacko:
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
My employer has now said no international travel for work, unless absolutely necessary.
Now that phrase puzzles me. The government(s) use it often.
Can your company not just say " no international travel full stop"?
Genuine question.......not having a pop.
BTW.....if the government dont slap a blanket ban then I lose my 2 grand for the holiday I paid for. :sad:
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Now that phrase puzzles me. The government(s) use it often.
Can your company not just say " no international travel full stop"?
Genuine question.......not having a pop.
BTW.....if the government dont slap a blanket ban then I lose my 2 grand for the holiday I paid for. :sad:

For work they have said it. They wouldn't stop holidays, but work travel yes - TBH, it's costly and not always needed, but lots of academics do swan off to international conferences, which are getting cancelled. My missus employer manages marketing and events for pharma companies, and they are getting loads of cancellations.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
My employer has now said no international travel for work, unless absolutely necessary.

I feel really sorry for cabin crew and airport staff who still have to turn up for work to share confined spaces for lengthy periods with travellers from who-knows-where.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
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