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roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
I've barely been in a shop for weeks.

Popped into our waterstones today. I was the only person wearing a mask. Not a single one visible elsewhere on the High Street either, though I didn't actually go in any other shops.

As a lycra wearer and tandem rider, I'm not overly concerned about what others think of me, but I must confess to feeling a right plonker all on my lonesome.

Unless it's mandated, it's not going to happen, I think.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I've barely been in a shop for weeks.

Popped into our waterstones today. I was the only person wearing a mask. Not a single one visible elsewhere on the High Street either, though I didn't actually go in any other shops.

As a lycra wearer and tandem rider, I'm not overly concerned about what others think of me, but I must confess to feeling a right plonker all on my lonesome.

Unless it's mandated, it's not going to happen, I think.

Don’t be look at it as a clear open sign showing you care about others.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Don’t be look at it as a clear open sign showing you care about others.

Yeah, it's interesting psychology wise.

I understand its a rational and sensible thing to do.

I'm a pretty robust person, no shrinking violet by any means.

The Prime Minister, no less, has advised that we do this.

Yet still, being the only person in town taking this course of action, I find it really uncomfortable.
 

MntnMan62

Über Member
Location
Northern NJ
Yeah, it's interesting psychology wise.

I understand its a rational and sensible thing to do.

I'm a pretty robust person, no shrinking violet by any means.

The Prime Minister, no less, has advised that we do this.

Yet still, being the only person in town taking this course of action, I find it really uncomfortable.

Does that mean you are going to allow what other people think dictate what risks you take with your own life?
 
I'd say that 99% of the people we see in video on the news, facebook, anywhere really, where throngs of people are congregating with no social distancing at all and no one wearing masks are NOT people with learning difficulties.

One thing that really worries me is that the UK/US don't have or scrapped most provision for vulnerable adults and/or adults with psychological disabilities. This means you have a lot of people who really need help and in many cases medication who aren't getting it, and remember learning problems or Psychological disabilities aren't obvious from a Facebook post.

Alternatively some are getting medication but that has side effects which can include learning difficulties or getting confused. It is not surprising that many end up on the streets or in this case, either not understanding or ignoring C-19 guidelines. Many will have heard our Glorious Leaders or someone in the media saying masks are pointless, and believed them; they can't filter oinformation to decide what is correct and what isn't. With no assistance or support they will just wander off to the shops without a mask or go to the privvy and not wash their hands because they've been told there's no point, or worse, try and drink bleach because they think it will help.

One reason for the workshops in Germany is that it means people have someone to help them understand or at the very least make sure they are kept reasonably safe from harm.
 
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Adam4868

Legendary Member
The mask wearing needs to be made mandatory or else it's a waste of time.Nobodys wearing them here,pubs were packed at weekend aswell.You can't get on a bus here without one,if you haven't got one it's a quid to buy or your not getting on.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Does that mean you are going to allow what other people think dictate what risks you take with your own life?

Well, two points on that one.

Firstly, wearing a cloth mask has probably zero direct benefit to the wearer. So I wouldn't be taking any risk with my own life going maskless.

Secondly, I did wear the mask, so I'm a bit lost as to what point you're making here?
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Yeah, it's interesting psychology wise.

I understand its a rational and sensible thing to do.

I'm a pretty robust person, no shrinking violet by any means.

The Prime Minister, no less, has advised that we do this.

Yet still, being the only person in town taking this course of action, I find it really uncomfortable.

Yes I get that and fully understand was more a bit of mutual support really. For me it’s not face covers that get to me. It’s the total break down of the rest too in shops most of the staff look to no longer care anymore too. I‘m now really looking again at if the already small number of shops I feel happy about. Are just too much of risk. Local Tesco has total lost the plot most measures have just been removed.
 

Rezillo

TwoSheds
Location
Suffolk
I've barely been in a shop for weeks.

Popped into our waterstones today. I was the only person wearing a mask. Not a single one visible elsewhere on the High Street either, though I didn't actually go in any other shops.

As a lycra wearer and tandem rider, I'm not overly concerned about what others think of me, but I must confess to feeling a right plonker all on my lonesome.

Unless it's mandated, it's not going to happen, I think.

I think there must be variations around the country that make it difficult to get a handle on this. For example, I was in Woodbridge a few days ago and everyone in the shops appeared to have masks and about half of those walking in the street wore one. I had a mask ready if I had chosen to go in anywhere and felt rather self-conscious for not wearing it outside. Woodbridge is more Telegraph-land than Guardian-country, so the Telegraph's ranting about masks and libertarianism is perhaps not shared by its local readership.

We had a riverside walk at Beccles yesterday - all outside, very little mask-wearing (which I was fine with in such a situation). A very different group of people compared to Woodbridge but everyone, save one group of teenagers from a broads boat, being incredibly polite and careful about distancing. It was quite uplifting.
 

MntnMan62

Über Member
Location
Northern NJ
One thing that really worries me is that the UK/US don't have or scrapped most provision for vulnerable adults and/or adults with psychological disabilities. This means you have a lot of people who really need help and in many cases medication who aren't getting it, and remember learning problems or Psychological disabilities aren't obvious from a Facebook post.

Alternatively some are getting medication but that has side effects which can include learning difficulties or getting confused. It is not surprising that many end up on the streets or in this case, either not understanding or ignoring C-19 guidelines. Many will have heard our Glorious Leaders or someone in the media saying masks are pointless, and believed them, and with no assistance or support they will just wander off to the shops without a mask or go to the privvy and not wash their hands because they've been told there's no point.

One reason for the workshops in Germany is that it means people have someone to help them understand or at the very least make sure they are kept reasonably safe from harm.

At least you have workshops for those who need them. Those in the US with special needs in group homes or a supervised setting are at the mercy of whatever those homes have arranged as protection against covid. I suspect that what has happened in many nursing homes in the US could also be taking place in homes for the specials needs. Although we aren't hearing much about that. Probably supressed by Heir drumpf. I agree with you and did not mean to disagree with you, especially as I am a parent with a special needs adolescent. My only point was that most people out there don't fall into that category and therefore don't get a pass. Sadly, there is zero leadership in the US at the moment and there is not likely to be any for the foreseeable future. I am not up on the UK or elsewhere for that matter. But I'm acutely aware of what is happening here and it's scary. My apologies if I misinterpreted your comments.
 
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