Coronavirus outbreak

[Adam4868]

It's a very, very... bad world

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/30/us-buys-up-world-stock-of-key-covid-19-drug

Leader of the free world....at least we'll be ok with our "special relationship" won't we ?

 

[tom73]

The US look to be going from bad to worse at an alarming rate. They are now talking about if things don't improve soon. Daily cases may hit 100,000 a day.

 

[PaulSB]

@fossyant @DCLane @mjr - thanks for your responses. I've now been able to reach my own conclusion which I've chucked in to the general chat we are having.

Thanks again.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

It’s clear that the virus is still insufficiently controlled across large parts of England.

Now is not the time for residents of England to be allowed unfettered access to the length and breadth of their neighbouring counties.

 

[brodiej]

View: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1277960112691273728?s=19


Interesting thread here about the Government not publishing Pillar 2 data

Pillar 1 are cases in health care workers and hospital. Pillar 2 are everyone else and account for over 80% of cases but the Government refuses to publish this.

Here are the graphs for Leicester showing why they have a problem.

Apparently it was a ministerial decision to hide the figures.
It's crazy and makes it so hard to make informed decisions as an individual. Should I send my kids back to school? It depends on the prevalence of the virus in the local community but we don't know that!!

 

[tom73]

Leicester appear to have only got detailed information on Thursday so that was pointless for them act quick. It's taken 10 day's for Matt to do anything. Even though Leicester equalled 10 % of national cases and hospital admissions went though the roof.
Meanwhile last week Australia had an outbreak of just 44 cases in one state overnight 43 in one area. Went in full on and contained it.
Come the 4th we still don't have a hope of controlling any of this. Even many of pubs and shops locally that are saying they are opening.
In interviews clearly don't have a clue what they are doing. Having looked up the data locally it's alarming even now. Think I better stock up ready a lockdown.

 

[midlife]

View: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1277960112691273728?s=19


Interesting thread here about the Government not publishing Pillar 2 data

Pillar 1 are cases in health care workers and hospital. Pillar 2 are everyone else and account for over 80% of cases but the Government refuses to publish this.

Here are the graphs for Leicester showing why they have a problem.

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Apparently it was a ministerial decision to hide the figures.
It's crazy and makes it so hard to make informed decisions as an individual. Should I send my kids back to school? It depends on the prevalence of the virus in the local community but we don't know that!!

I wonder if there's any way of finding out the pillar 2 data for the rest of the country ?

 

[tom73]

I've just found my council's Covid outbreak plan I had a feeling it was not going to much good. As it start's with Our vision is.... It's a public health matter not a funding bid.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

is that the one that just shortens the time you have it by 4 days and not a cure ?

I think you may be thinking of Remdesivir, the one the US has just cornered all the available stock of.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

The govt is not learning 2/n


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/globalhlthtwit/status/1278273370312900609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


We have a higher rate of transmission than successful countries when they relaxed lock downs.

We have measures currently delivering a rate of transmission barely dropping and in some areas actually rising.

Our replacement for these measures is a track and trace system which is patently nowhere near effective enough to make an impact.

Our conclusion: we should significantly relax social distancing. We should not impose other measures such as mask wearing.

I fear we will rapidly go in the wrong direction. Potential very rapidly.

 

[raleighnut]

It’s clear that the virus is still insufficiently controlled across large parts of England.
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Now is not the time for residents of England to be allowed unfettered access to the length and breadth of their neighbouring countries.

As a Leicester Resident I for one won't be rushing to the Pub/Shop for the foreseeable.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

The govt is not learning 3/n

Headline data on transmission rates is massively misleading, particularly at local level.

Rapid dissemination and follow up of test data at local level is critical to control without lock down.


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1277960119611871234

 

[tom73]

If we don't get a grip of the figures how to use them and who need's them at time they need them. Get testing options and availably better at a ground level. Get the turn around and results better joined up. Underlined with effective tracking and clear simple not conflicting public health messages. All sorted my the autumn which is quickly coming down the line then we are toast.

 

[DCLane]

If we don't get a grip [shortened] by the autumn which is quickly coming down the line then we are toast.

I've come to the conclusion the government doesn't intend to sort it. Just to let things run.

 

[raleighnut]

I've come to the conclusion the government doesn't intend to sort it. Just to let things run.

Sadly I think you're right.