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Rocky

Hello decadence
Giving steroids during a viral infection is counter intuitive and not what I was taught. Usually the steroid switches off your immune response and the virus runs wild. I guess if you have no immune response then the steroid reduces collateral damage.
Interesting.....I've seen the protocols for a number of the clinical trials of repurposed drugs for Covid. Many seem to have strange side-effects such as causing breathing problems and clot formation. At first sight, not what you would want, given the mechanism of Covid infection in the lungs. However, it appears that one of the problems with Covid is that it causes an oxygen shunt in the blood vessels to the lungs - thereby stopping the blood getting re-oxygenated. It is this issue that the trial drugs seem to be targeting. The hope is that the benefit from these drugs will outweigh the negative side effects, such as you are describing.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Sounds odd it’s true , it looks to be all part of the multi complex game Covid play’s. One of the main ones the massive inflammation it brings and in turn the massive cytokine storms. The thinking is it stops the latter.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
What stuns me about those photos, as others at NikeTown in London and elsewhere, is that none of them engaged their brain to think "this is too busy, let's go elsewhere or come back later" :wacko:

AKA they're stupid and, if they die, I'm afraid I have no sympathy.

Crazy scenes and makes you realise that some people’s lives revolve around completely different things.
 

Salty seadog

Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
Deaths declining, but awfully slowly.

New cases looks worryingly flat.

It really doesn't look good. We should be driving these down, not relaxing things IMO.

The way its going you or I could be presenting the briefing soon. Maybe just in our pants.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
So, anyway, this world-beating app, we might be able to download it by Christmas. If all goes well....

Health Minister Lord Bethell asked about the contact tracing app at
@CommonsSTC
"We're seeking to get something going before the winter, but it isn't the priority at the moment" Confirms it is still the government's intention to introduce it
 
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midlife

Guru
On a slightly different note, was chatting to some hospital colleagues today and they say admissions with the typical COVID barking cough have essentially stopped and its presenting as quite poorly people with gastro intestinal disease and vascular problems....

They have been antibody testing staff here as well, they won't release the stats and the results are confidential but surprised at the number of positives in close colleagues before lockdown, I may well be positive too (testing for our department soon)
 

Once a Wheeler

…always a wheeler
There is no point at all in being worried but everyone should be concerned. Interestingly, covid-19 has some similarities with the fourteenth century black death which very few intermediate epidemics have shared. In particular, there is no vaccine and there may be very little long-term acquired immunity. History tells us that from about 1438 there were successive resurgences of the black death at roughly ten-year intervals for approximately a century. Although hygiene and living conditions are very different now, the history does make me think that the recovery will not be described by a V-shaped graph, let alone an L-shaped one, but rather by an upper-case W followed by a series of lower-case ws: Wwww. A vaccine of course would change the game and bring it into line with MMR and other afflictions such as polio. Vigilance is the order of the day; and, of course, treatments such as dexamethasone take the sting out of severe cases. Additional treatments look likely: so watch, hope and take your precautions. Good health to all.
 
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