Coronavirus outbreak

[srw]

Words fail me

Really? Where are you more likely to encounter a sick, infectious person - a hospital or a shopping centre?

The nerks in Bicester were selfish, thoughtless idiots but that doesn't invalidate what the NHS is doing.

 

[tom73]

Equally the same applies to encountering a fully well infectious person. The NHS has and will have to for some time get use to working in both confirmed and no confirmed covid environments. The only way to do that is what many areas have done and looked for new way to deliver services and the other is to treat everyone as possible covid carrier.
Meanwhile the public are running like mad to the promised land of "it's all over" and move on which will "invalidate" the hard work done by health services which for most part happens well away from hospitals that have little room for the errors of others.

 

[mjr]

Meanwhile the public are running like mad to the promised land of "it's all over" and move on which will "invalidate" the hard work done by health services which for most part happens well away from hospitals that have little room for the errors of others.

Boris has said 2m is no longer necessary. I read it on facebook. Anyone want to bet whether it's a simple misunderstanding gone viral or something that's had "нелр"?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Twelve weeks after his first Covid-19 symptoms, 28-year-old Callum O'Dwyer is still not better.

A fit and healthy young man, he had no underlying health conditions before he caught the virus.

But after five weeks of fighting of the main symptoms, he could no longer look after himself and had to move in with his parents.

Recovery has taken much longer than he imagined and his ongoing symptoms mean he still can't live on his own or work.

Doctors have told Callum he has post-viral fatigue, a hangover from coronavirus which is affecting many survivors.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53056785

Not good

 

[tom73]

Viral fatigue is a growing area of concern as more cases come to light and is one of the many things still to learn about the virus.
It's not just a handful either few items on the radio the past few week's some of the cases are 80-90 days and still have problems.
Only this morning a new trial is starting locally to look at exercise as a way to help with recovery.

 

[tom73]

Look's like the 1st effective covid life saving treatment has been found it's cheep and a proven drug.
Results show it cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators and deaths by a fifth for those on oxygen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

So is Dexamethasone going to make a difference?

 

[Rocky]

So is Dexamethasone going to make a difference?

For a few very sick people, perhaps......but IMO we still need (i) a vaccine (ii) some other prophylactic drug (iii) something to help those people admitted to hospital but not yet needing CPAP oxygen or a ventilator.

It is good news - as it's the first treatment that has been shown to have a real effect for some patients.

 

[DaveReading]

So is Dexamethasone going to make a difference?

Well the BBC think so.

They have just asserted on the 6pm news that "thousands of lives" could have been saved had the drug been deployed from the start of the pandemic.

 

[Rocky]

Well the BBC think so.

They have just asserted on the 6pm news that "thousands of lives" could have been saved had the drug been deployed from the start of the pandemic.

Mmmmmmm I'm not sure about that claim.......

 

[Unkraut]

They have just asserted on the 6pm news that "thousands of lives" could have been saved had the drug been deployed from the start of the pandemic.

Strikes me as a rather insensitive thing to say, as what is past is past, and this is a new discovery only relevant for the future. Some who have lost relatives may go through the agony of 'what if' this had been given, when at the time no-one knew of the benefits or it would have been.

 

[tom73]

Mmmmmmm I'm not sure about that claim.......

The one headed up the study in an interview put the figure at 5000 based on the results. It was a sort of out out the blue question and the reply was on of them that in a 5 minute interview get's taken up and ran with. I've not seen the paper so not sure if or how they make that claim.
It's not the magic bullet but if you put the life saved to one side. As we know the effects of a ventilator take a lot of time, money and staff to fix. So any saving on that front is welcome given we are going to need all the extra capacity we can get.

 

[Tanis8472]

Look's like the 1st effective covid life saving treatment has been found it's cheep and a proven drug.
Results show it cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators and deaths by a fifth for those on oxygen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said there was a genuine case to celebrate "a remarkable British scientific achievement", adding: "We have taken steps to ensure we have enough supplies, even in the event of a second peak."

Typical of that twat.

 

[pawl]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-53057199

Crikey, like a rugby scrum...

Seeing that mob makes me wonder how we have managed to reach are current situation.

 

[midlife]

Giving steroids during a viral infection is counter intuitive and not what I was taught. Usually the steroid switches off your immune response and the virus runs wild. I guess if you have no immune response then the steroid reduces collateral damage.