Coronavirus outbreak

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roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
It's worth saying that the best evidence is that this isn't the case - many of the people killed would, in all likelihood, have lived for years longer.

On average ten years or so

https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...d-19-victims-have-died-soon-without-the-virus
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Just when it's looking like Hancock is slowly getting what this virus is all about. He calmly gives hospitals 9 day's notice at 5 o'clock in the afternoon that hospital visiting will go's back to normal and out of thin air they need to find even more PPE.
Is he just picking stuff out a hat before he go's in front of the camera ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-were-not-consulted-nhs-trust-chiefs-complain
 

midlife

Guru
Just when it's looking like Hancock is slowly getting what this virus is all about. He calmly gives hospitals 9 day's notice at 5 o'clock in the afternoon that hospital visiting will go's back to normal and out of thin air they need to find even more PPE.
Is he just picking stuff out a hat before he go's in front of the camera ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-were-not-consulted-nhs-trust-chiefs-complain

Its not clear who in hospitals should wear marks, the way I read it is that masks do not need to be worn in Covid secure parts of the hospital. Our building is meant to be covid secure!
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Its not clear who in hospitals should wear marks, the way I read it is that masks do not need to be worn in Covid secure parts of the hospital. Our building is meant to be covid secure!

Aren't all businesses or pretty much anything that reopens supposed to be covid secure?
 

Slick

Guru
Aren't all businesses or pretty much anything that reopens supposed to be covid secure?
What does that mean exactly and who can say they are secure?

I'm responsible for protecting my work place when we reopen and I struggle with the whole concept.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
What does that mean exactly and who can say they are secure?

I'm responsible for protecting my work place when we reopen and I struggle with the whole concept.

Covid secure is just the name for the set of standards which is a condition of reopening. I was just pointing out how ridiculous it would be if the scenario midlife said was the case. It's a silly name for Boris to keep saying and using in the documents. Most useful thing I found was the SAGE paper on spread.

I have come up with a scenario for being covid secure for actitivites inside a venue that will itself have to be. That is still some time off I might add. Others werent very happy and thought it was so bad face to face might as well cease to continue. The level of risk is hard to judge because of the unknowns of the personal lives outside that room.

There'll be a tiny bit of enforcement but it just runs on interpretation and trust. For some things open presently I do believe the risk has been reduced a fair old whack.

How are you getting on with your plans?
 

midlife

Guru
Here is what Hancock said...

He added: “And to offer even greater protection, we are also providing new guidance for NHS staff in England which will come into force again on the 15th of June.

“All hospital staff will be required to wear type 1 or 2 surgical masks, and this will cover all staff working in hospital,” he said.

“It will apply at all times, not just when they are doing their life-saving work on the frontline. It will apply in all areas except those areas designated as Covid-secure workplaces.”
 

oldwheels

Legendary Member
Location
Isle of Mull
Its not clear who in hospitals should wear marks, the way I read it is that masks do not need to be worn in Covid secure parts of the hospital. Our building is meant to be covid secure!
I have an appointment for a scan on Monday. When I arrive I wait outside and report in by mobile phone [this assumes probably correctly that everybody has one]. Somebody will come to get me when ready and I will be required to use hand sanitiser and then given a face mask at the entrance before answering some Covid questions. This is NHS Highland.
 
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