Coronavirus outbreak

[tom73]

@marinyork Maybe that's the plan try and gloss over the bad bit's.
Look's like it's no just a minister and no expert just when you though it can't get any worse.
Wonder if it's anything to do with the last few days when they made it clear that the government was not listening.

 

[Salty seadog]

WHO now advising masks should be worn by the public

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Just read the Profs article in the press.

 

[marinyork]

@marinyork Maybe that's the plan try and gloss over the bad bit's.
Look's like it's no just a minister and no expert just when you though it can't get any worse.
Wonder if it's anything to do with the last few days when they made it clear that the government was not listening.

I genuinely do think it's political management of the message. These are things that need announcing, however I regard it as very silly because if you draw out these new announcements each day they'll have less impact. We all know Matt likes a good target/announcement. I don't have much of a problem with face coverings in hospitals, we'll see if these announcements keep on going if there's a run on masks and coverings.

It also dilutes out any public health message, which is a very critical thing at the moment. Because as we all know everything's tip top for back to normal in June and July .

Locally the gantries on the ring road I see all the time whatever form of transport I use have changed today to sociall distancing saves lives from essential journeys only.

 

[Rocky]

Locally the gantries on the ring road I see all the time whatever form of transport I use have changed today to sociall distancing saves lives from essential journeys only.

The one coming into Oxford on the A40 from London still tells me to Stay Alert........which is quite helpful as I'm usually feeling sleepy by that stage of the journey.

 

[Beebo]

that‘s two press conferenceS this week without a scientific expert taking questions.

Seems strange, have the scientist said they won’t do it anymore.

 

[Rusty Nails]

that‘s two press conferenceS this week without a scientific expert taking questions.

Seems strange, have the scientist said they won’t do it anymore.

I sometimes think the scientists are in these briefings to act as cover for the politicians. Graphs and statistics can be obtained from government sites and more often than not the questions asked in the briefings are political and do not really need a scientist to answer. I prefer the scientists to be used sparingly when there is new evidence/knowledge to impart rather than routinely taking the pressure off politicians.

 

[Salty seadog]

that‘s two press conferenceS this week without a scientific expert taking questions.

Seems strange, have the scientist said they won’t do it anymore.

Nope, they've all agreed that Cummings broke lockdown rules and said it at the podium. They've been moved aside. Now it's little Matt all on his own controlling the message.

 

[tom73]

that‘s two press conferenceS this week without a scientific expert taking questions.

Seems strange, have the scientist said they won’t do it anymore.

More like they've been sent to naughty step for not complying with the everything is fine message.

 

[tom73]

Nope, they've all agreed that Cummings broke lockdown rules and said it at the podium. They've been moved aside. Now it's little Matt all on his own controlling the message.

He will have to be careful with no-one to pass the cleaver questions on to bluff them too many times and he will look even more the clown.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

that‘s two press conferenceS this week without a scientific expert taking questions.

Seems strange, have the scientist said they won’t do it anymore.

Or have they been asked to? I got the feeling that Whitty was making himself persona non grata a couple of days ago, and Harries' comments before that about breaking lockdown and Cummings appear to have unsettled the government.

 

[tom73]

I genuinely do think it's political management of the message. These are things that need announcing, however I regard it as very silly because if you draw out these new announcements each day they'll have less impact. We all know Matt likes a good target/announcement. I don't have much of a problem with face coverings in hospitals, we'll see if these announcements keep on going if there's a run on masks and coverings.

It also dilutes out any public health message, which is a very critical thing at the moment. Because as we all know everything's tip top for back to normal in June and July .

Locally the gantries on the ring road I see all the time whatever form of transport I use have changed today to sociall distancing saves lives from essential journeys only.

I agree though they've not been all that keen to push the public health messages from the start. So can't see them getting a grip of it now which as you say we sadly need.

 

[randynewmanscat]

Going out for a beer isn't looking likely any time soon for us. Though I'll be out collecting a case of beer this afternoon - it's been delivery only for a good while but collection is now an option. Last time I had a drink in a hostelry was 8 March.

Aye, for me I think it was the 15th of march just before the schools and colleges shut down here. Its nice to have a little slice of social life back though I can see a recipe for trouble late at night when people are worse for wear and forgetting cautious behaviour. It is easier than I thought to be vigilant, dodge out of peoples way and keep my hands completely off my face when sober but after alcohol I doubt it, we shall see if the numbers go up due to bar attendance.

 

[randynewmanscat]

Hancock's turn to issue mask advice.
Everyone member of the public going into hospital will have to wear face covering.
All staff clinical or not will have to wear class 1 or 2 masks.
He then went on to make a joke
Health staff are asked to self isolate he will support them even if it means the whole department.

They give you a mask on the door in clinics or hospitals if you don't turn up with one. I see more people wearing masks now than during the strict confinement, its seen as a social gesture of respect towards your fellow shoppers, whatevers.
You would not get on a bus or train without one here and if you kicked off about your rights or some such crap you would be seeing police soon or having your fellow travelers push you out of the way.
USA is pretty strange at the moment, my cousin tells me that in the "hick" states it is seen as a sign of weakness to wear a mask, feel glad you don't live in Michigan or North Carolina.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

There's no scientists at the briefing because the government aren't interested in the science any more. The 14 day quarantine is a political raspberry being blown at them. Nothing to do with science, everything to do with Priti Pathetic Patel being seen to do something.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

There's no scientists at the briefing because the government aren't interested in the science any more. The 14 day quarantine is a political raspberry being blown at them. Nothing to do with science, everything to do with Priti Pathetic Patel being seen to do something.

I'd imagine that no countries were prepared to open air corridors to the UK until it got infection levels down, the quarantine being just a distraction from that uncomfortable fact.