Coronavirus outbreak

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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Betting everything on something not verified doesn't seem a great idea leaving aside it turned out to be a discredited policy otherwise. If I were Whitty I wouldn't be relishing the forthcoming inquiry.

Herd immunity as a long term strategy isn't discredited at all yet. It's the only long term strategy there is. Short term strategies it's no use whatsoever.

The government haven't helped themselves. I do wish they would publish in more detail the evidence and thoughts on how children spread/susceptible to the virus and modeling on schools. The sage advice should have been published earlier.

Enquiries could focus on testing and things like whether London should have been restricted a week and a half earlier. Whatever went on in care homes and the lack of government support there.

If a vaccine is impossible, then by that time quite a lot of information will be known about the virus having failed to find a vaccine multiple times. That information will be useful. Apocalyptic scenarios might be that a lot of more sophisticated work goes into shielding a small percentage of the population and genetic testing. Other nightmare scenarios are it takes so long to make a vaccine that significant mutation has occurred. A more likely scenario might be a vaccine offers some immunity but doesn't perform as well as wanted, this does happen for strains on flu vaccines.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
New Safer travel guidelines

"You should avoid using public transport where possible. Instead try to walk, cycle, or drive. If you do travel, thinking carefully about the times, routes and ways you travel will mean we will all have more space to stay safe."
What to take with you
  • a plan for my journey
  • contactless payment card or pass
  • phone (if needed for travel updates, tickets, contactless payments)
  • tickets
  • hand sanitiser
  • essential medicines
  • tissues
  • a face covering, if required
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-safer-travel-guidance-for-passengers
https://assets.publishing.service.g...7/passenger-guidance-infographic-document.pdf
 
"People may exercise outside as many times each day as they wish. For example, this would include angling and tennis. You will still not be able to use areas like playgrounds, outdoor gyms or ticketed outdoor leisure venues, where there is a higher risk of close contact and touching surfaces. You can only exercise with up to one person from outside your household – this means you should not play team sports, except with members of your own household. " Pg 25 of the road map

1.7 Are there restrictions on how far I can travel for my exercise or outdoor activity?
No. You can travel to outdoor open space irrespective of distance. You shouldn’t travel with someone from outside your household unless you can practise social distancing - for example by cycling. Leaving your home - the place you live - to stay at another home is not allowed. Q&A document

More guidelines are due today about enforcement so that's not clear yet.
Advice health wise is if you meet up that's it for the day. So ride out with one mate then later another is not currently seen as a good idea health wise. What's not clear is if you meet up then other member of your house hold can't do the something with someone else the same day.

If you do social distancing is a must as is hand hygiene and don't share anything when out. If you have to help a mate out with a breakdown use your own tools and keep your mate well away.

Since when was angling a exercise!
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Since when was angling a exercise!
Think to save paper they have combined activities good for mental health into one definition of exercise.
 

Shut Up Legs

Down Under Member
I just had a thought (I don't know if it deserves a separate thread?): while people around the world are patting themselves on the back and congratulating themselves on the drop in greenhouse gas emissions due to fewer trips by plane, train, car, etc., there has also been a significant increase in computer use, which is a major contributor to greenhouse gases. There seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence worldwide of air pollution lowering, however, so I guess the net effect of the coronavirus is still to reduce greenhouse gases.
 
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