Coronavirus outbreak

[deptfordmarmoset]

My PAYG dumb phone from Tesco was £4.99 and included £15 of credit. Ideal for me as credit doesn’t expire as long as I use phone at least once every six months.

I could buy 100 of them for price of a smart phone.

Plus battery lasts a few weeks not days!

You don't have to pay that much and you can get phones with bigger batteries (they tend to be bigger and heavier too). Camera, satnav, cyling apps, GPS, all small and portable. But, to nudge the thread back on track, here's a photo from my phone on a bike ride...

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I was wondering how much the NHS doctors are looking at what we know about the body and how it adapts when it has very low levels of oxygen? A lot could be learnt from high altitude medicine where it’s known people have been exercising perfectly fine above 8400m with blood oxygen sats as low at 54%.

 

[tom73]

Just watching the news doing a report on possible drugs to treat Covid patients so filming on a Covid Ward.
I’m fuming how is it that the reporter and crew have better PPE than the nurse who is caring for the patient? Who is coughing all over the place as the nurse is standing next to the bed.

This is why the number of health worker deaths is still going up it shouldn’t be happening.
Staff are not disposable but clearly the government see it differently.

 

[Milzy]

There's been traffic ques a mile long to get into Costa coffee when the government is spending millions on our Furloughed people. Loads of people are making multiple journeys a day half not essential. It's a complete joke. They should get primary schools opened in a week and then get us off Furlough the week after.

 

[tom73]

Schools are a real can of worms they can’t just reopen as before. They simply don’t have the room to social distance and that’s just the start. It will have to be the ones at greatest need 1st then slowly opening up to others.

 

[Adam4868]

With the contact tracing app set to go live within weeks it still look's as iffy as it did when it was first thought about.
It still look's and sounds like a total privacy mess not to mention the rest.
Have NHSX got the means to make, run and control the app and it's data in house Or is it all going to be outsourced ?
If so who really owns the data ?, what will they do with it ? If people don't trust they won't use it.
Most people never worried about Cambridge Analytica till they had to. Centrally controlled data is not a great selling point.

It shifts responsibility to us,the public.They provide the app and pass the blame to us rather than themselves.

 

[vickster]

It shifts responsibility to us,the public.They provide the app and pass the blame to us rather than themselves.

How else can contact tracing be done without the cooperation of the population?
It’s been successful in Korea thanks to extremely high levels of compliance by the population and government intervention in personal privacy

 

[Adam4868]

How else can contact tracing be done without the cooperation of the population?
It’s been successful in Korea thanks to extremely high levels of compliance by the population and government intervention in personal privacy

Maybe your right,but public trust in this goverment and transparency ? They don't have a great track record for me.

 

[Adam4868]

Interesting to see how others view our success.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...ere-did-britain-go-wrong-20200428-p54o2d.html

 

[MrGrumpy]

This event has plenty more twists and turns to go through , lots of comparisons between apple and pairs ! The media will always paint their own picture. The only thing I`ve learned so far is that our care home systems needed to be looked at thoroughly after this.

 

[tom73]

Care home system is just the start so much inequality has been laid bare by this.

 

[Electric_Andy]

I'm just on a call with our whole team; the boss is talking about the "announcement" yesterday and how we should all be thinking about going into work and social distancing. It's a complete farce - the boss has just said how well we are working at home, so why the urge to go in to the office? We can all work from home perfectly well, there's no reason to go into the office apart from for "interaction". And this is the NHS.

Am I wrong to think we should all be working at home and only going in to work if absolutely necessary?

 

[Milzy]

Interesting to see how others view our success.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...ere-did-britain-go-wrong-20200428-p54o2d.html

The problem is that this is completely sensationalistic. There are countries across Scandinavia & Europe who haven't implemented anywhere near the same level of lockdown as the Italians, Spaniards or UK and they've had nowhere near the levels of infection. If you look at the statistics clearly the most infections occur (as you'd expect) in those areas where the population density is at its highest, hence why London accounts for the vast majority of cases in the UK.

The reality is that Australia and New Zealand are both completely incomparable to the UK in that both their population and population densities are low.

No UK Government could or would have reacted any differently, and that's the cold harsh truth.

Let them crack on.

 

[Unkraut]

As of this morning, zoos, museums, war memorials are open again. Hairdressers and all retail shops. A ban on shops with over 800 sq. m floor space has already been overturned in a constitutional court - the govt had admitted it was somewhat arbitrary, but did not want masses of people crowding into town centres again. Church and sundry services will be permitted again, and those in care homes will now be allowed out. Children's playgrounds are reopening. No more restrictions on dentists (talking of which .... ) . Some of the restrictions on the border with France are being relaxed.

Schools are being partly opened, though the logistics of this are very difficult when taking into account protecting vulnerable staff and trying to maintain the hygiene regime. The opening of schools is very controversial but the state wants to allow exams to go ahead as normal as much as this is possible.

One state is allowing 5 people to meet together instead of two as at present.

I was quite surprised at the level of 'normality' envisaged, and can only assume that the voices arguing the lockdown simply cannot be maintained indefinitely have gained in influence. The discipline needed to keep it going, especially in city centres, is possibly starting to get a bit iffy.

 

[Unkraut]

No UK Government could or would have reacted any differently, and that's the cold harsh truth.

I'm afraid I don't agree. I think there has been a mind-numbing amount of complacency in the way the govt reacted. Maybe arguing about this during the pandemic isn't very productive, but the govt and lack of grip need to be thoroughly examined afterwards, with suitable consequences if appropriate. Lions led by donkeys again, and it actually makes me quite sad to see what has gone on in Britain over the last few weeks.

Oh populism what crimes are committed in thy name.