steve292
Guru
- Location
- Weston-super-mare, north somerset
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- Location
- Glasgow
Here in the Glasgow outskirts lock down has never really happened.
Up until last week there was less motorized traffic, yes, but people still went out and about, mainly shopping because there is nowhere else to go, of course.
Lots of elderly still going out, even though they get assistance, for fresh air, they say, but must go to a busy shop for said fresh air
Quite a few elderly refusing assistance too: I volunteer in the community, get to talk to a lot of people, most would go about as normal if the government hadn't set up restrictions.
City centre is deserted, but once non essential shops start opening, public transport increases a bit, town go back to semi normal, even without the catering outlets open.
I think here the majority of people tend to see the virus emergency as something dreamed up from the powers above to make their lives difficult.
Imo, this is because here in Scotland we have had (so far!) a lot less deaths than England, if people are not affected personally they don't really care. Contagion is an abstract concept to them.
I see key workers assisting folks with various disabilities taking out their clients, queuing up for the shops in Rutherglen main street, I see buses full of elderly people, I see car traffic increase, I see shop workers mainly not respecting social distance among colleagues.
Imo, this is not going to end up well.
Up until last week there was less motorized traffic, yes, but people still went out and about, mainly shopping because there is nowhere else to go, of course.
Lots of elderly still going out, even though they get assistance, for fresh air, they say, but must go to a busy shop for said fresh air
Quite a few elderly refusing assistance too: I volunteer in the community, get to talk to a lot of people, most would go about as normal if the government hadn't set up restrictions.
City centre is deserted, but once non essential shops start opening, public transport increases a bit, town go back to semi normal, even without the catering outlets open.
I think here the majority of people tend to see the virus emergency as something dreamed up from the powers above to make their lives difficult.
Imo, this is because here in Scotland we have had (so far!) a lot less deaths than England, if people are not affected personally they don't really care. Contagion is an abstract concept to them.
I see key workers assisting folks with various disabilities taking out their clients, queuing up for the shops in Rutherglen main street, I see buses full of elderly people, I see car traffic increase, I see shop workers mainly not respecting social distance among colleagues.
Imo, this is not going to end up well.
Here in the Glasgow outskirts lock down has never really happened.
Up until last week there was less motorized traffic, yes, but people still went out and about, mainly shopping because there is nowhere else to go, of course.
Lots of elderly still going out, even though they get assistance, for fresh air, they say, but must go to a busy shop for said fresh air
Quite a few elderly refusing assistance too: I volunteer in the community, get to talk to a lot of people, most would go about as normal if the government hadn't set up restrictions.
City centre is deserted, but once non essential shops start opening, public transport increases a bit, town go back to semi normal, even without the catering outlets open.
I think here the majority of people tend to see the virus emergency as something dreamed up from the powers above to make their lives difficult.
Imo, this is because here in Scotland we have had (so far!) a lot less deaths than England, if people are not affected personally they don't really care. Contagion is an abstract concept to them.
I see key workers assisting folks with various disabilities taking out their clients, queuing up for the shops in Rutherglen main street, I see buses full of elderly people, I see car traffic increase, I see shop workers mainly not respecting social distance among colleagues.
Imo, this is not going to end up well.
I was talking to someone a few days ago who has a small courier company. He's now part of the local effect to get food and stuff out to ones who are shielding at home. They are working out of large call centre he often phones up people asks to speak to them "oh they are not in they've nipped out for some ..... He also often get's no reply only to phone latter and get told oh yes I went out for a paper.
He explains they have been advised to stay in and he can get them what ever they need. But they tell him yes but "I still need to go and get my paper"
He not the only one having trouble most in the call centre have same problem. He's spoke to other's working in other area's of the county it happening all over the place.
Sadly I think we are heading headlong into a new outbreak.
deptfordmarmoset
Full time tea drinker
- Location
- Armonmy Way
It may be that they never changed their behaviour in the first place so it's not part of a new outbreak, just a factor in the current one.Sadly I think we are heading headlong into a new outbreak.
God, those are poor quality, I won't wear them. They don't fit anybody. They are too wide for most heads so they are constantly slipping down causing you to touch your face. The clip on eye "shields" can pop off the lugs at any time, the lugs then snap off or bend when you try to reassemble them, the hospital is littered with 1000's of used for seconds and never to be used at all examples. You pick up crap like this and it's funny, but not funny, why am I being provided with this shoot and witnessing utter PPE incompetence every day?
I grabbed the first decent pair I saw a few weeks back as I knew they'd run out. I've still got them, I won't hand them in for cleaning, I do it myself after every task. I am responsible for them, it's that simple.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Just been talking with a Swedish colleague from Lund. The Swedish lockdown really is chickensh1t !
She pointed me at this article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...nure-park-deter-visitors-coronavirus-lockdown
She pointed me at this article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...nure-park-deter-visitors-coronavirus-lockdown
Totally agree it's just total crap. Try doing even basic stuff wearing them never mind CPR you've not a hope.
Forget the race for a vaccine "divine cleansing oil" is all you need. £91 all in
Prevents and cures Covid-19 if taken three times a day
Not sure saying your "convinced" it works will get passed the MHRA.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52480133
Sadly some will blindly believe it works.
Prevents and cures Covid-19 if taken three times a day
Not sure saying your "convinced" it works will get passed the MHRA.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52480133
Sadly some will blindly believe it works.
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kingrollo
Guru
What you mean they run out of jobs on the side !
vickster
Legendary Member
Which shops? Ones that were banned from opening or ones that decided to close for a bit even though they didn’t have to under the rules (eg B&Q, Greggs)
deptfordmarmoset
Full time tea drinker
- Location
- Armonmy Way
Not the only ones - https://853.london/2020/03/20/coron...rshippers-they-would-be-safe-during-epidemic/ - though this one did stop its services.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Also, I think some new permitted shops are opening because it's a last-ditch attempt by some locked-down small businesses to avoid going bankrupt.
It's not done them much good today, though. I only saw one other shopper. Is it because it's raining? Does this mean there are loads of people who are "I ain't scared of no coronavirus so I will keep going shopping - eek! Rain! I'm not going out in that!"
Andy in Germany
Guru
- Location
- Rottenburg am Neckar
I hadn't realised that and wondered why there's a jump in the figures today.
I was talking to someone a few days ago who has a small courier company. He's now part of the local effect to get food and stuff out to ones who are shielding at home. They are working out of large call centre he often phones up people asks to speak to them "oh they are not in they've nipped out for some ..... He also often get's no reply only to phone latter and get told oh yes I went out for a paper.
He explains they have been advised to stay in and he can get them what ever they need. But they tell him yes but "I still need to go and get my paper"
He not the only one having trouble most in the call centre have same problem. He's spoke to other's working in other area's of the county it happening all over the place.
Sadly I think we are heading headlong into a new outbreak.
This is a really tricky one. For people's mental health they need some interaction, otherwise we'll have a psychological and/or health crisis on our hands, if we haven't already. Staying at home, especially for elderly people could lead to a vicious cycle of self re-enforcing depression, to say nothing of issues for people with alzheimers or dementia.
But as you say, going out just makes the current situation worse.
From the point of view of the virus and public health, the answer is obvious, but from mental health it's much more difficult.
