Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

A controlled exit would be preferable to a slow collapse of the lockdown. A plan for a gradual relaxation with an option for reversing this is required.

Yes that would make sense - but I can sense the slow collapse happening.

 

[tom73]

A few days ago the public could now submit questions for the daily briefing. Been told by some of the YP I've worked with they can't you have to be 18 or older. As one YP put it the virus effects everyone no matter what your age.
Given the standard of questions we have since day one I can't help thinking YP probably would ask much better ones than some so called grown up's.

 

[mjr]

A few days ago the public could now submit questions for the daily briefing. Been told by some of the YP I've worked with they can't you have to be 18 or older. As one YP put it the virus effects everyone no matter what your age.
Given the standard of questions we have since day one I can't help thinking YP probably would ask much better ones than some so called grown up's.

The age limit is probably because Boris is terrified of being asked "Daddy?"

 

[mjr]

Belgium is to issue every citizen (I just double-checked and it says "citizen" not "resident" which seems unusual) with a reusable anti-infecting-others mask and at least two filters before the end of lockdown. Use will be compulsory on public transport and possibly some other situations. https://www.belgium.be/en/news/2020/coronavirus

Unusually, it's not the health minister leading, but the defence minister. The Army have been tasked with purchase or manufacture and distribution. Why not health minister Maggie de Block? She's just been on TV again saying shoot like "masks give a false sense of security" so it seems she's not trusted to deliver decent masks!

 

[Rusty Nails]

A few days ago the public could now submit questions for the daily briefing. Been told by some of the YP I've worked with they can't you have to be 18 or older. As one YP put it the virus effects everyone no matter what your age.
Given the standard of questions we have since day one I can't help thinking YP probably would ask much better ones than some so called grown up's.

Never mind the YP (??), as a much OP I want to know if the self-isolation is going to continue until the end of the year for us. I need to stock up on the hair dye to see if I can get away with pretending I'm in my 60s when I'm out on my bike. My face mask snood will hide some of the wrinkles. .

 

[Rocky]

Well, no, but isn't that why trials are done?

The trouble with "common sense" is that it's often neither common or sense. People may laugh at Trump's bleach injections, but it wasn't many weeks ago that the "common sense" idea of killing c19 by gargling with various useless or harmful things was spreading wildly on social media.

RCTs when done well for the right research question are the gold standard. But there’s poor research - poor design, poor research governance, and inappropriate use for certain questions. If it’s a simple PICO (what group of Patients, defined Intervention, defined Comparison and defined Outcome) the an RCT might work.

 

[Inertia]

The problem with this is that Fox News and Trump are so awful it is impossible to tell whether this is a joke or not.

Looks real, also Wuhan Chinese virus

Its at least a month old though

https://www.mediamatters.org/lou-do...oronavirus-has-been-superb-great-or-very-good

 

[Handlebar Moustache]

Just an update from Edinburgh. Looking out the window and when out for the exercise walk I can see that traffic has dramatically increased In the last week to about 60-80% pre-lockdown levels. No idea why the sudden increase - are more people going out to the supermarket and DIY store all of a sudden? But it does feel as if people are starting to quietly work around the spirit of the lockdown

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Just an update from Edinburgh. Looking out the window and when out for the exercise walk I can see that traffic has dramatically increased In the last week to about 60-80% pre-lockdown levels. No idea why the sudden increase - are more people going out to the supermarket and DIY store all of a sudden? But it does feel as if people are starting to quietly work around the spirit of the lockdown

Seeing the same in Stirling and my sister tells me traffic from Fife to Dundee has increased a lot over the last few days.

I think people see headlines like "Government plans to ease lockdown" and hear "Lockdown eased"

 

[Handlebar Moustache]

Seeing the same in Stirling and my sister tells me traffic from Fife to Dundee has increased a lot over the last few days.

I think people see headlines like "Government plans to ease lockdown" and hear "Lockdown eased"

Perhaps that’s it - and I think others have mentioned something similar is happening down south. I did wonder if differentials between England and Scotland would mean different timescales for easing the lockdown but it seems that there’s little difference to attitudes across the country?

 

[PK99]

I think people see headlines like "Government plans to ease lockdown" and hear "Lockdown eased"

That's the problem with pre discussion

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Seeing the same in Stirling and my sister tells me traffic from Fife to Dundee has increased a lot over the last few days.

I think people see headlines like "Government plans to ease lockdown" and hear "Lockdown eased"

Or self employed said they could manage 5 weeks but certainly not a year long lockdown.

 

[slowmotion]

Just an update from Edinburgh. Looking out the window and when out for the exercise walk I can see that traffic has dramatically increased In the last week to about 60-80% pre-lockdown levels. No idea why the sudden increase - are more people going out to the supermarket and DIY store all of a sudden? But it does feel as if people are starting to quietly work around the spirit of the lockdown

In London, I thought pretty much the same at the weekend, but now that the rain has returned, it's been a whole lot quieter.

 

[mjr]

Looks real, also Wuhan Chinese virus

Its at least a month old though

Though? The date was literally on the screenshot. 18 March. Taken from a ZDF broadcast last weekend.

 

[mjr]

I think people see headlines like "Government plans to ease lockdown" and hear "Lockdown eased"

Do you think Brits are more stupid than residents of neighbouring countries that discuss unlocking like adults?