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PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
I've just set up new shares ISA for new tax year ;) (to replace the one I cashed in on the initial panic :shy:)

Oops!
 

AuroraSaab

Veteran
Yes, figures quoted on BBC suggested that 70% of those who “progressed” to ventilator were clinically obese.
I think you would also need to consider that many obese 50 plus year olds may well have some level of undiagnosed heart disease, which may not necessarily be recorded as 'underlying illness' but which may affect their ability to recover.
 
The points I was trying to make were:

- originally saying he didn't really need to be in ICU, but had subsequently improved considerably for two days running isn't consistent with remaining in ICU

- this is of a piece with the updates since he fell ill, which have been overly optimistic throughout, and thereby destroy much needed trust in HMG

But TBH I don't really want to debate his health and now regret bringing it up at all, so I'll be silent on the subject from here on.

I haven't seen a quote saying he has "improved considerably".

And I thought he was taken in hospital as a "precaution" - then moved to ICU as he "deteriorated".

I had friend in ICU for 10 days - for most of that time he was classed as improving or doing well - I really don't see why someone improving in ICU for 2 days in inconsistent - I would have thought it pretty normal TBH.
 
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MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
'some' is very vague :rolleyes:
 

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
Been practicing our infection control drill today.
Nat has started work at the Nightingale as a porter/cleaner. No patients in yet.
He cycles in his own clothes and changes into a uniform at work. Not having any experience of how this works, I was surprised that he brings his uniform home. He is putting it inside 2 plastic bags in his rucksack and tipping it straight into the washing machine by itself as soon as he gets home. Plastic bags straight into wheely bin. He strips off by the back door and his own clothes stay outside and then go in the washing machine when his uniform is done.
Straight upstairs without touching anything and straight into the shower.
Anybody with more experience than me think of any additional measures we could be doing?
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Yes, figures quoted on BBC suggested that 70% of those who “progressed” to ventilator were clinically obese.

I wouldn't be surprised if that % was the same in normal times.

PPE problems today, largely self inflicted and entirely predictable. Here are the figures from Wednesday.

Tested positive - 212
Rested negative - 755
Currently in hospital - 90
Discharged home - 59
Patients in ICU - 12
Deaths - 25
 
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nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Been practicing our infection control drill today.
Nat has started work at the Nightingale as a porter/cleaner. No patients in yet.
He cycles in his own clothes and changes into a uniform at work. Not having any experience of how this works, I was surprised that he brings his uniform home. He is putting it inside 2 plastic bags in his rucksack and tipping it straight into the washing machine by itself as soon as he gets home. Plastic bags straight into wheely bin. He strips off by the back door and his own clothes stay outside and then go in the washing machine when his uniform is done.
Straight upstairs without touching anything and straight into the shower.
Anybody with more experience than me think of any additional measures we could be doing?
Is there any risk of transfer onto the bike handlebars? Might be worthwhile wiping them with alcohol wipes. Just a thought
 

Cuchilo

Prize winning member X2
Location
London
Been practicing our infection control drill today.
Nat has started work at the Nightingale as a porter/cleaner. No patients in yet.
He cycles in his own clothes and changes into a uniform at work. Not having any experience of how this works, I was surprised that he brings his uniform home. He is putting it inside 2 plastic bags in his rucksack and tipping it straight into the washing machine by itself as soon as he gets home. Plastic bags straight into wheely bin. He strips off by the back door and his own clothes stay outside and then go in the washing machine when his uniform is done.
Straight upstairs without touching anything and straight into the shower.
Anybody with more experience than me think of any additional measures we could be doing?
Change the locks ^_^
 
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