Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

Fair comment: I was thinking of the German statistic which is that 11-12 people a day are killed by motor vehicles. Of course not all are cyclists.

The comments from the doctor make sense though, even if my conclusion was a bit out on the numbers

On the other hand, it seems a lot of people who catch Coronavirus don't even realise; the mortality rate is only from confirmed cases and there's a school of though that most people recover after a few days, and think they just caught a cold or flu, and that others don't even show any symptoms, so the mortality rate may be far lower.

Yeah perhaps I should have paid attention to your user name !

IMO the extreme views are:-

1.) This is all blown way out of proportion by the media - it will just go away on its own

2.) We should wear masks 24/7, stock up on food, and stay indoors

I disagree with 1 - but I am not at 2 (Yet)

I don't see the point of panic - as other than basic hand hygiene there not much you can do.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Yeah perhaps I should have paid attention to your user name !

IMO the extreme views are:-

1.) This is all blown way out of proportion by the media - it will just go away on its own

2.) We should wear masks 24/7, stock up on food, and stay indoors

I disagree with 1 - but I am not at 2 (Yet)

Well, now you know why I failed GCSE maths first time around...

 

[kingrollo]

Well, now you know why I failed GCSE maths first time around...

I think thats the issue - people see a 98% figure and say 'ah we will be fine' - but in clinical terms 98% isn't good. For comparison death from rates from anaesthesia-related deaths were 1.1 per million population per year

 

[Andy in Germany]

I think thats the issue - people see a 98% figure and say 'ah we will be fine' - but in clinical terms 98% isn't good. For comparison death from rates from anaesthesia-related deaths were 1.1 per million population per year

Except that as the pointed out above the majority of people will catch this, probably about 75-80% of the population. Of those. most won't even realise they've got it at all, or will will shake it off as a cold before it becomes confirmed as coronavirus. The 1-2% rate is of confirmed cases and we don't know what percentage of total cases are diagnosed or confirmed.

 

[Fab Foodie]

If alcohol kills Corona virus on your hands, how much alcohol do you need to drink for immunity...*hic*

 

[Rocky]

If alcohol kills Corona virus on your hands, how much alcohol do you need to drink for immunity...*hic*

I’m willing to enter a clinical trial to find out

 

[kingrollo]

Except that as the pointed out above the majority of people will catch this, won't even realise they've got it and will shake it off before it becomes confirmed as coronavirus. The 1-2% rate is of confirmed cases and we don't know what percentage of total cases are diagnosed or confirmed.

The figures I have seen is that for 80% its not serious illness - not sure if that is 80% of confirmed cases or if they have modelled those with mild symptoms into that figure.
At best it would it appear that the figure on unreported & very mild cases is still an estimate. I would expect the fatality rate to fall as hopefully the virus weakness - but the sheer number of infections would still have a major impact even if that death rate got to 0.5% !

 

[Milkfloat]

If alcohol kills Corona virus on your hands, how much alcohol do you need to drink for immunity...*hic*

I thought it was the lime that killed the nasties?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Getting fed up of the people who are saying this is all hype. I think the internet enabling morons who then feel the need to say "black" when someone says "white" plays a big part.

Wash your hands.
Cover your mouth when you sneeze/cough.
Be a decent human being with some consideration for others.

 

[Grant Fondo]

I thought it was the lime that killed the nasties?
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No its the beer that kills your taste buds

 

[Proto]

Mate came over from Australia couple of days ago and is off skiing end of this week, flying to Verona, then into the Alps/Dolomites for two weeks. I’ve suggested he cancel but he’s determined to go - hotels, flights etc. all booked. I pointed out that Verona is the hub of Italian outbreak but he won’t listen.

He was intending to come and visit us on the return journey. My wife has left it to me to tell him he won’t be welcome. Overreaction?

 

[stephec]

On a similar note, last week I was at a factory where a new bottle filling machine was being installed by an Italian company.

Today I go in to find they've all been sent home, apparently they've been there since the new year but used to go home each weekend, now they've been told to stay away until April.

And I shook the boss's hand last week.

Sunday morning I've got flu like symptoms and phone 111 to tell them of the above circumstances, I was told that I should just treat it as normal flu and there was no point testing me unless one of the Italians is a confirmed case.

I've emailed my contact there, asking to be kept upto date, but he's on holiday for the week, hopefully someone else will be monitoring it.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I’m willing to enter a clinical trial to find out

We might have to self-isolate in a suitable purveyors of the treatment...

 

[Archie_tect]

Mate came over from Australia couple of days ago and is off skiing end of this week, flying to Verona, then into the Alps/Dolomites for two weeks. I’ve suggested he cancel but he’s determined to go - hotels, flights etc. all booked. I pointed out that Verona is the hub of Italian outbreak but he won’t listen.

He was intending to come and visit us on the return journey. My wife has left it to me to tell him he won’t be welcome. Overreaction?

With his attitude it doesn't sound as if you'd want him back anyway...

 

[Andy in Germany]

Mate came over from Australia couple of days ago and is off skiing end of this week, flying to Verona, then into the Alps/Dolomites for two weeks. I’ve suggested he cancel but he’s determined to go - hotels, flights etc. all booked. I pointed out that Verona is the hub of Italian outbreak but he won’t listen.

He was intending to come and visit us on the return journey. My wife has left it to me to tell him he won’t be welcome. Overreaction?

We've just been sent an advisory saying anyone from the local schools who has been in that region must stay away from school for at least two weeks.

The problem as I understand it, is that you can carry it without knowing and pass it onto an "at risk" group which could have more serious consequences.