Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

I would assume they contact the most at risk first, wife’s cousin donated a kidney to his wife and she was contacted very quickly as she is on immune suppression meds.

Don't know. My GP said they were still in the process of identifying.
Bizzarley they said I was in the at risk group - and I should call back at the end of the week if I hadn't had a letter - as if I was missed off it would indicate something had gone wrong with there process.
They are so useless - I'm not expecting a letter this week.

 

[mjr]

My wife’s friend has been sent home from work on SSP even though she has no symptoms or other health problems, purely because she is over 70. The employer claims they are doing it “for her safety and in line with government advice for over 70s to self-isolate“.

There's a discrimination case waiting to happen if both sides survive this. I hope your wife's friend has trade union support.

 

[Venod]

The wife read somewhere that they assess vulnerability combining condition with number of recent hospital visits. So although she has a fairly serious condition but avoids hospitals unless absolutely necessary, she doesn't score as highly as someone who runs back and forward to the hospital.

She's got emphysema and after two bouts of pneumonia, she has less than 33% lung function. She is unlikely to survive exposure to this virus.

The SIL has the same condition, she has had the letter, she has been in hospital in the past 6 months but like your wife avoids it as much as possible she has breathing apparatus at home, the last time the doctor visited, (about a month ago) he gave explicit instructions not to allow anyone into the house, because of infection risk.

 

[tom73]

Systm-One has been updated so I understand and show anyone who is in the at risk group. So GP's should know if you are covered by the shielding advice. Sadly passing on the advice however may not be as joined up as is needs to be. Though that's not a new problem
In will also depend on who is reviewing the information not everyone at a practice is fully aware of every ones on going conditions and how they are managed.
So if you can best checking with the person who really knows you and your condition management.
Which maybe a Practice Nurse , Nurse Practitioner at the clinic , your named GP or who ever carries out your reviews.

Some cross checking with other data bases may mean some who have been told they at risk may not see themselves as one.
Over all this is a big exercise on top of everything else they are trying to do so it may take time so just try and be patience.

The simple message is if in doubt check.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

These are English NHS experiences so might not be relevant. I'm in the "Don't even leave the house" group and got a text on 23 March with a link to the advice website. On the 24th, I got another text about repeat prescriptions and registering with the NHS site for vulnerable people support. On the 28th, I got a call from the local authority to see if I was OK and giving me a contact phone number. So, so far, it all seems very good in my case.

Sorry for the late reply. I was in the garage on the turbo trainer using my mobile phone and kept getting my logon password wrong and then got turfed out until now

Thank you. There certainly seems to be a difference in approach between the English NHS and the Scottish version.

 

[Pale Rider]

I don't personally see a lot of difference between self isolation and extra stringent social distancing but it doesn't really matter, it's about keeping yourself (and others) safe

The main practical difference looks to be you are advised not to go out even for food or medicine.

Quoting from the online document:

How do these measures differ from the social distancing guidance for vulnerable people issued?

You are strongly advised to stay at home at all times for a period of at least 12 weeks from the day you receive your letter. Avoid going out for food and medicine. Ask a friend, neighbour, or family member to bring your supplies where possible.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

The main practical difference looks to be you are advised not to go out even for food or medicine.

Quoting from the online document:

How do these measures differ from the social distancing guidance for vulnerable people issued?

You are strongly advised to stay at home at all times for a period of at least 12 weeks from the day you receive your letter. Avoid going out for food and medicine. Ask a friend, neighbour, or family member to bring your supplies where possible.

I think the list is also passed to pharmacies and supermarkets to give priority to deliveries.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Systm-One has been updated so I understand and show anyone who is in the at risk group. So GP's should know if you are covered by the shielding advice. Sadly passing on the advice however may not be as joined up as is needs to be. Though that's not a new problem

The simple message is if in doubt check.

I am registered on systm-on. It would have been easy enough to update on there so a patient could see in their own online record that they are considered at risk. I just checked and they have added links to the nhs Covid-19 advice but no more.

 

[mjr]

Systm-One has been updated so I understand and show anyone who is in the at risk group. [...]
The simple message is if in doubt check.

Where does it show in SystmOne, please? I'm fairly sure now I'm not, based on comments above, but it'd be nice to confirm.

 

[tom73]

I am registered on systm-on. It would have been easy enough to update on there so a patient could see in their own online record that they are considered at risk. I just checked and they have added links to the nhs Covid-19 advice but no more.

Yes your right that would have been nice and simple but like I said it's not joined up.
The update may well only apply to HCP's and other users access that's how Mrs 73 spotted it.

 

[mjr]

News from Switzerland: worries about rents of closed businesses, updated stats, the loss of smell question maybe the first symptom, financial problems at bus companies and public transport season tickets extended, Hungary maybe-excessive emergency powers including years in prison for spreading fake news about c19 (take note "it's just flu" types), suspicions of Wuhan underreporting based on numbers of body bags and similar shipped there, Brazil president saying "it's just flu" being criticised including Argentina's, speculative purchases of shares in some Swiss companies including Swatch

 

[Blue Hills]

Article on the age factor highlights increased risk to the non too old.
Also highlights lack of test data.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...study-reveals-increased-risks-from-middle-age

 

[tom73]

Figures show that prison cases within England and wales are on the up.
Still less than 60 though it's doubled since last update a week ago.
The figure of a 1000 in isolation highly suggests that ever prison within the estate is affected.
18 prison staff and four prison escort staff also have tested positive.
The biggest issue is the 3,500 employees around a tenth of the workforce are currently in self-isolation
It's going to be an uphill task to stop the numbers running away from staff.
Easy release will need to happen at some point and around 50 pregnant prisoners will have to dealt with quickly if they can be safely released.

 

[Mo1959]

Figures show that prison cases within England ad wales are on the up.
Still less than 60 though it's doubled since last update a week ago.
The figure of a 1000 in isolation highly suggests that ever prison within the estate is affected.
18 prison staff and four prison escort staff also have tested positive.

It's going to be an uphill task to stop the numbers running away from staff.
Easy release will need to happen at some point and around 50 pregnant prisoners will have to dealt with quickly.

They're discussing early release up here too. Prisons are a perfect breeding ground for the virus. I honestly can't see how they can avoid the majority becoming infected.

 

[Buck]

There's a discrimination case waiting to happen if both sides survive this. I hope your wife's friend has trade union support.

I agree it isn't SSP as she should be social distancing but one would have to establish that the advise by the Co. was intentional and caused material harm.