Coronavirus outbreak

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Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
I'm absolutely certain this has been going on in tiny numbers, but I'm not talking about the very sluggish and highly rationed PCR of which we're doing a mere 6000 tests in the entire country and even countries like Italy are having bad days and doing 17,000 a day for example over the weekend.

I'm talking about the new antibody test kit which Boris mentioned last night which was the most important thing I heard last night. Various sketchy reports that the UK government did a Spain and started ordering them on Saturday on the quiet (Spain started ordering them around last Monday-Tuesday and just distributed 640,000 with millions more on order). It might be the end of this week a few hundred thousand arrive in the government's hands.

The antibody test means that a prison could be given a few hundred and test an entire wing if that was justified in the case of an outbreak. Or staff could be tested every 3-4 days and so on. Or whatever is seen as the most efficient way of saving lives.
I think that's what I was referring to upthread. A Scottish company got an order for 2.6m test kits last week but the order was from Public Health England, not the Scottish NHS. They were having problems with logistics, partly because the kits included swabs etc and had to be assembled rather than just sending out x number of swabs, x number of Part A, x numbers of Part B etc
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Thank you - I have looked at asthma UK and as a triotupuim user I would be classed as high risk - but no letter or text yet ....mind you my GP isn't the best so they've probably forgot me !!!

My wife hasn't had any news yet and we've seen deliveries being made to vulnerable users nearby so she phoned her GP. apparently they're contacting everyone alphabetically and she's a "W" :sad:
 
My wife hasn't had any news yet and we've seen deliveries being made to vulnerable users nearby so she phoned her GP. apparently they're contacting everyone alphabetically and she's a "W" :sad:
I'm R !!!

If you are in the high risk group - can you still go for a solo bike ride ?
 

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
Thank you - I have looked at asthma UK and as a triotupuim user I would be classed as high risk - but no letter or text yet ....mind you my GP isn't the best so they've probably forgot me !!!
Contacted my gp yesterday. My inhaler and dosage are on the list. Turns out in the small print that mine is half the strength of the one that would put me on the list. Feel a bit silly for panicking now!
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
A neighbour seems to have called out some drainage engineers for some reason, all walking roughly 2m apart but the two engineers arrived sat side by side in the same van:wacko:
 
We all thought you were a ‘W’. :okay:
It's gone over my head mate ???
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
I think that's what I was referring to upthread. A Scottish company got an order for 2.6m test kits last week but the order was from Public Health England, not the Scottish NHS. They were having problems with logistics, partly because the kits included swabs etc and had to be assembled rather than just sending out x number of swabs, x number of Part A, x numbers of Part B etc

I did see it :smile:. I'd also seen various pieces from multiple different companies around the UK some of which said they were in talks and others said nope, not heard anything from any UK lot. I do believe you, just not wanting to post much until more finalised.

There are massive issues with logistics. Even if happens as Spain where I understand what happened it they had to get 20,000 test kits here, 40,000 there and so on to make up 640,000. Even 10,000 test kits is transformational. On the ventillators or other equipment logistical issues around assembly and parts are having to be overcome.

When I mentioned logistics previously I also meant distributing them. I don't have a problem with Vo' type arrangements where the UK government clean sweeps an entire hospital staff say at once (and three to four days later) to work out who/what/where. As well as saving lives a proper study would show how it spreads within hospital staff. Longer term than a couple of weeks I worry about the UK government and various workers doing stupid things with tests. There has be a system for using them to basically ration and use effectively what's among one of the most precious things on earth right now.

For me one of the advantages of the various antibody and other quicker tests is in combination. Say you have a hospital worker where they are tested and it comes back ambiguous, target a PCR on them, isolate for 24 hours. It means in some cases people will be able to go back to work after 24 hours rather than a much longer amount of time.
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
If you're in the high risk group, then you shouldn't be going out at all. Because you're likely to be hospitalised if you were to catch this virus.

@kingrollo

Advice for people at high risk
If you're at high risk of getting seriously ill from coronavirus, there are extra things you should do to avoid catching it.

These include:

  • not leaving your home – you should not go out to do shopping, visit friends or family, or attend any gatherings
  • avoiding close contact with other people in your home as much as possible

How do these measures differ from the social distancing guidance for vulnerable people issued?
You are strongly advised to stay at home at all times and avoid any face-to-face contact for a period of at least 12 weeks from the day you receive your letter.

People who are not clinically extremely vulnerable who have contracted coronavirus (COVID-19) and recovered will be able to go about their normal business. If you are in this group we strongly advise that you should remain at home at all times.

Symptoms
The most common symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19) are recent onset of:

  • new continuous cough and/or
  • high temperature (above 37.8 °C)
What is shielding?
Shielding is a measure to protect extremely vulnerable people by minimising interaction between those who are extremely vulnerable and others. This means that those who are extremely vulnerable should not leave their homes, and within their homes should minimise all non-essential contact with other members of their household. This is to protect those who are at very high risk of severe illness from coronavirus (COVID-19) from coming into contact with the virus.

If you think you have a condition which makes you extremely vulnerable or have received a letter from NHS England you are strongly advised to shield yourself, to reduce the chance of getting coronavirus (COVID-19) and follow the face-to-face distancing measures below.

The measures are:

  1. Strictly avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough.
  2. Do not leave your house.
  3. Do not attend any gatherings. This includes gatherings of friends and families in private spaces, for example, family homes, weddings and religious services.
  4. Do not go out for shopping, leisure or travel and, when arranging food or medication deliveries, these should be left at the door to minimise contact.
  5. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media.
Edit: source link - https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/advice-for-people-at-high-risk/
 
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