Coronavirus outbreak

[Mo1959]

I see the Scottish Prison Service is stopping all visits. I don't envy my old colleagues.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Instructed by govt to close

How you doing today?

 

[tom73]

Put them in the warehouse?

They don't operate on big in store warehouse most retail outlets are get the stock in and out. Holding loads of stock in the back has gone.
Holding the stock in the distribution warehouse is possible that will have a knock effect. They can of course just trun round to the suppliers and say stuff you we don't want it. Then leave them hold the baby.

 

[marinyork]

I see the Scottish Prison Service is stopping all visits. I don't envy my old colleagues.

Hopefully they'll be sent some of these millions of test kits that was started to be ordered on saturday.

 

[tom73]

I see the Scottish Prison Service is stopping all visits. I don't envy my old colleagues.

That's a difficult one as you know for some that's the only thing stopping them doing anything silly

 

[tom73]

Hopefully they'll be sent some of these millions of test kits that was started to be ordered on saturday.

England and wales are already testing the prison population. That never stopped now if they have enough kits well that's a different story.

 

[Mike_P]

I do wonder if the two speed epidemic we have in the UK will become more so. London is maybe 2 weeks ahead of the rest of the UK now

But looking at packed public transport going into London from commuterland must be a perfect vector for CV transmission

TFL should be doing a lot more, marking 2m distances for a start because I bet a lot of those commuters would think half of that was adequate given the conditions they are use to and quite reducing the number of trains has plainly back fired. Elsewhere bus operators are taking matters more seriously, Transdev in E Lancs and N/W York's have provided their drivers with clearance from seated passengers

 

[PK99]

How you doing today?

Strangley, today I am close to normal.

Maybe my routine meds of Hydroxcychloroquine and Azithromyin (see medical reports about these being tested in tandem and reducing length of infection) are helping.

I'm an anecdatpoint!

 

[Blue Hills]

I do wonder if the two speed epidemic we have in the UK will become more so. London is maybe 2 weeks ahead of the rest of the UK now

But looking at packed public transport going into London from commuterland must be a perfect vector for CV transmission

Here in semi rural Derbyshire there isn't much public transport anyway and the roads are incredibly quiet. Basically Glossop is following instruction and is locked down

So I wouldn't be surprised to see a real slowdown in the epidemic's progress in small towns. Contrast with what may happen in London commuterbelt

Yes that's what i was thinking - that london might clear first. After many many dead sadly. Am in London.

 

[marinyork]

England and wales are already testing the prison population. That never stopped now if they have enough kits well that's a different story.

I'm absolutely certain this has been going on in tiny numbers, but I'm not talking about the very sluggish and highly rationed PCR of which we're doing a mere 6000 tests in the entire country and even countries like Italy are having bad days and doing 17,000 a day for example over the weekend.

I'm talking about the new antibody test kit which Boris mentioned last night which was the most important thing I heard last night. Various sketchy reports that the UK government did a Spain and started ordering them on Saturday on the quiet (Spain started ordering them around last Monday-Tuesday and just distributed 640,000 with millions more on order). It might be the end of this week a few hundred thousand arrive in the government's hands.

The antibody test means that a prison could be given a few hundred and test an entire wing if that was justified in the case of an outbreak. Or staff could be tested every 3-4 days and so on. Or whatever is seen as the most efficient way of saving lives.

 

[Blue Hills]

TFL should be doing a lot more, marking 2m distances for a start because I bet a lot of those commuters would think half of that was adequate given the conditions they are use to and quite reducing the number of trains has plainly back fired. Elsewhere bus operators are taking matters more seriously, Transdev in E Lancs and N/W York's have provided their drivers with clearance from seated passengers View attachment 510131

Good for transdev good outfit in my experience. Wouldn't want to be anywhere near a northern train at the moment.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Here we go - Independent: "NHS worker issues plea to Boris Johnson as commuter train packed despite UK lockdown"

Sadiq Kahn's response to this apparently bolsters my point about the ambiguous message sent to businesses:


Surely if you're classed as a non-essential worker you shouldn't be compelled to still attend your workplace..? IMO this leaves the door wide open for scumbag bosses to risk the health of their workers, families and wider society in the pursuit of profit and smacks of total double standards when compared to the heavy and pretty uncompromising restrictions placed on other activities.

Makes the latest restrictions look like little more than a PR exercise tbh.

The tube thing this morning has me thinking....
Firstly there is a marked reduction in trains thus concentrating passengers.
Secondly, for a major city start thinking of all the people that are required to keep it safe and ticking-over and you start to come-up with a surprisingly longer list than you might imagine outside of the ‘emergency workers’.

Train, tube, bus and delivery drivers, maintainance engineers for all the mechanical infrastructure, all the shop workers, posties, refuse drivers, bank workers teachers etc....then you start to figure that quite a few still need to travel....

 

[kingrollo]

Just had a text - presumably because I am on triotupuim (inhaler) - says I should stay at home - does that mean I can't go out for solo exercise ?

 

[Adam4868]

The tube thing this morning has me thinking....
Firstly there is a marked reduction in trains thus concentrating passengers.
Secondly, for a major city start thinking of all the people that are required to keep it safe and ticking-over and you start to come-up with a surprisingly longer list than you might imagine outside of the ‘emergency workers’.

Train, tube, bus and delivery drivers, maintainance engineers for all the mechanical infrastructure, all the shop workers, posties, refuse drivers, bank workers teachers etc....then you start to figure that quite a few still need to travel....

Don't reduce the service...put more on ?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Perhaps I'm just bitter because I don't like to have my movements curtailed or be made to feel guilty about / second guess my decisions to go out on the bike.. but does anyone else feel that the measures applied to private activites seem excessively draconian compared to the vague, subjective and lax advice for businesses?

While I'm all for many of the wider-reaching measures (public gatherings, closure of non-essential stuff, minimising trips out etc) It seems to me that the government is taking a hard line with indiviual activities while leaving the door wide open for some decidely non-essential businesses to carry on regardless at their own behest.

Rightly or wrongly I resent being made to feel like an irresponsible scumbag for daring to venture outside the house into the clean, open, sparsely-populated air more than once per day, while Sports direct can apparently force its workers to come into contact with many, many people daily while flogging them an essential pair of trackie bottoms

This sums up my concerns about my three rides a week. They help keep me fit and sane in my dotage, I only ride solo in non-busy areas, but still I worry about being seen as selfish.