Coronavirus outbreak

[StuAff]

When I was in the supermarket today doing my folks' shopping, I saw one old chap eyeing up a Fray Bentos - things must be desperate. I once had a look at the ingredients list for one of those things and it frightened the willies out of me just holding it.

When me & my mum were doing shop pt1 in Morrisons on Saturday (Lidl was needed for further items), Fray Bentos were one of the things that were well-stocked…
Can't help thinking that someone needed to create rumours about foods to treat the virus. I was thinking Pot Noodle, taramasalata, Ready Brek…

 

[tom73]

from the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52000039

This thing is bringing the worst out in some people

Horrific

 

[Smudge]

At least i'm at home and not stuck abroad like some Brits, it must be horrendously scary for those that cant get home. I also have no financial or work worries.
A lot of people are in a far, far worse situation than myself.

 

[Unkraut]

“The police are the people and people are the police” once we lose that we are finished.

I can see the point in not wishing for a military police force, but in the current circumstances (despite not living in the UK at the moment) it would be nice to see both the police and the Army as 'us' who are against 'them' - the anti-social element who could be endangering lives.

 

[tom73]

Friends will have enough problems of their own and most of them live too far from me... and i dont have family that live anywhere near me. A couple of my neighbours would help out if necessary.
Apart from stuff like bread & milk, i reckon i'll be ok for meals for 10/12 days. I have enough dog food for about 3 weeks. So no probs for a while.

As @DCLane say’s it will be ok. At 1st it maybe a bit batted round the edges. But will soon get sorted civil service lives for this stuff. Anyway the army are on to it they know his shift stuff and soon get things moving.

 

[Jody]

Does anyone know if it is only retail business shut. I'm currently working from home trialling it to make sure it all works but they wanted me back in on Thursday. It all works fine so I can technically work from home. The text seems a little ambiguous as what is necessary and what is essential. I dont fancy going into the office even if it is spread out a bit more.

 

[mjr]

Does anyone know if it is only retail business shut. I'm currently working from home trialling it to make sure it all works but they wanted me back in on Thursday. It all works fine so I can technically work from home. The text seems a little ambiguous as what is necessary and what is essential. I dont fancy going into the office even if it is spread out a bit more.

If you can technically, you should IMO. Any bosses who try to stop telework will be on very thin ice for an unsafe workplace if workers catch the virus in any number.

 

[marinyork]

If you can technically, you should IMO. Any bosses who try to stop telework will be on very thin ice for an unsafe workplace if workers catch the virus in any number.

This is the sort of nonsense that went on in Italy until a few days ago when Conte finally shut down loads of offices and construction sites. We need to learn from Italy. If we close it down now we're ahead of Italy on that one.

 

[randynewmanscat]

I'm confused about what is classed as absolutely necessary with regard to seeing family. Me and my son would have been isolating from Saturday to Thursday, can he still go and see his mum if no symptoms?

Over here you can't unless its is to deal with carer duties, a natter about the crisis and things in general does not count as necessary.

 

[tom73]

I can see the point in not wishing for a military police force, but in the current circumstances (despite not living in the UK at the moment) it would be nice to see both the police and the Army as 'us' who are against 'them' - the anti-social element who could be endangering lives.

So we deploy them as you say do we arm them as well ?
why not use a few water cannon for good measure.
The founding principle in the Uk is policing by consent. We lose that and it’s gone for ever. The army are needed for what they do best. In times like this Planning , logistics, and building things in quick time. Anyway we’ve not enough of them to go round in the place.
Anyone thought if we go round heavy handed and round up on mass. Just where are we going to put them ? who’s going to process them ? who’s going to care for them ?
The rules round children (10 up to 18) in custody are more than enough to clog the the whole thing up never mind anything else. Every one takes up time of 3 staff as a minimum. Not forgetting only some types of cell can be used for a child.

 

[randynewmanscat]

That's not a lockdown.
That's a strong request.

He urged us to do it.

Still be flouted with impunity for a bit yet.

It was not the message I hoped to hear.

 

[DCLane]

It was not the message I hoped to hear.

Basically a politician needs to bring the population with him.

Don't do that and you get civil unrest. I've lived in N.I. during that and it's not pleasant.

 

[tom73]

It was not the message I hoped to hear.

Official text from government guidance

Every citizen is instructed to comply with these new measures.

The Government will therefore be ensuring the police and other relevant authorities have the powers to enforce them, including through fines and dispersing gatherings where people do not comply.

The police and LA already have powers in place. Parks town , city centres some LA have already public space protection orders in place. which pretty much cover dispersal.

 

[randynewmanscat]

Some of the things that are reported through the news media prior to this situation made me wonder about what was happening to this country.We really shouldn’t be surprised how many people ignored the government’s requests

As I have said before these people motto is F you I’m alright

This behaviour has been going on for a long time. Heating oil thefts from pensioners living in the Scottish highlands, fire service being ambushed by small mobs throwing bricks and occasionally petrol bombs, police helicopter pilots having a concerted effort of laser pointers directed onto their craft, drones being flown within the boundaries of airports, paving slabs being dropped from motorway bridges.
The terrors visited on the fire service seem to have gone on since the invention of the hose.
Only once have I been a potential victim of the scrote tribe, travelling on the M60 near the Trafford Centre at the start of school holidays. A brick I think it was dropped from a footbridge by one of four kids, I swapped two lanes very, very quickly to avoid it. Had I been hemmed in by thick traffic I might not be sitting here typing the above.

 

[randynewmanscat]

Basically a politician needs to bring the population with him.

Don't do that and you get civil unrest. I've lived in N.I. during that and it's not pleasant.

Then I am afraid your fellow Britons are cack. Measures were put in place here, very strong measures and there has been mostly compliance.