GM
Legendary Member
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- North of the river
Yes, that seems like a good idea, totally agree!
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Yes, that seems like a good idea, totally agree!
Johnno260
Guru
- Location
- East Sussex
I work for a US firm, my plant went from a 50 person manufacturing place to a 4 person sales/engineering hub, 3 sales and I'm the engineer.
The EU sales manager called the head sales guy here, he said go and work from home, after he saw the latest UK advisory.
My boss, I'm concerned about your productivity if you work from home, and from a social distancing point of view being in an empty office in an empty office block is possibly better for you, I checked the internal corp message service, boss is working from home. like I said douchery is on the upward curve as well.
The EU sales manager called the head sales guy here, he said go and work from home, after he saw the latest UK advisory.
My boss, I'm concerned about your productivity if you work from home, and from a social distancing point of view being in an empty office in an empty office block is possibly better for you, I checked the internal corp message service, boss is working from home. like I said douchery is on the upward curve as well.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
Carphone Warehouse has made a good business case for closing its shops, irrespective of virus impact.
Although there might be an element of 'a good day to bury bad news' about the announcement's timing.
Laura Ashley, again realistically, is saying the virus has tipped them over the edge.
I am expecting more Laura Ashleys than Carphone Warehouses in the coming weeks and months.
snorri
Legendary Member
- Location
- East coast, up a bit.
That may well be correct, but if we are all sick together, patients will not only be lying on a trolley in a hospital corridor awaiting treatment, they'll also be stacked out in the hospital bicycle shed. The snowflakery as you describe it is an attempt to lessen peak load on hospital services by spreading the crisis over a longer period.
It's not for me to comment on your attitude to your own wellbeing, but your apparent recklessness could reflect adversely on the health and indeed the lives of others.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
Let's hope Mrs @Brompton Bruce agrees as well, because it looks she is in a position to have a genuine impact on the matter.
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
I'm not suggesting that it's due to Corona, although, as you say, according to the Laura story it may have been what has caused rescue talks to stall, but they have been on the brink for years. It was in response to Levo's post about businesses going through as a result of Corona, the numbers left unemployed by that will not be helped with thousands losing their jobs as a result of restructuring or tenuously linked closures.
I suspect you may well be right about the "good day to bury" angle and agree entirely that there will be many more to come, likely in rapid succession.
The world is going to be a very different place after this is over.
What's the story in the courts now? I follow a couple of barrister's twitters and they seem to be most unimpressed with the government's response and the general conditions and facilities.
newfhouse
Resolutely on topic
Brexit
According to what was said in the press conference yesterday they don't yet have a test which shows if you have already encountered the virus that's why they can't give accurate figures. Am curious myself as husband had the fever, muscle pain, fatigue and constant dry cough for around 7 days at Christmastime. No sniffles, or runny nose, just as described for the virus.
Rocky
Hello decadence
I’ll tell her.
One thing that is emerging from her network of GPs is that many are reporting that the Covid19 cough sounds very different from a ‘normal’ cough. It needs research but if this is true it may be a fast track way of diagnosis via phone or video link. Interesting but scary times.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
Regrettably, due to health problems I've been more off than on recently, so I'm not the best person to ask for an up to date position.
It was pretty much business as usual around here before Boris's latest announcement, which may have changed things.
What we could call 'business distancing' could easily be done for most interactions between the various people involved in a hearing.
Jurys could be a problem, most jury boxes are two rows of six fixed seats next to each other.
A juror could reasonably say it is now against government advice to sit in such close proximity to another person.
Twilkes
Guru
It wasn't coronavirus. The first UK case was detected in Chinese nationals at the end of January, the first 'internal' transmission at the end of February. If thousands of people had had it over Christmas they would have also been detected and current case numbers would have been much higher.
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RecordAceFromNew
Swinging Member
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- West London
The fact is the above is not quite true, is it?
On 2nd March after the 1st Cobra meeting, Boris and his "experts" told us to wash our hands, and urged the public to "go about their business as usual".
That was after the bloodbath in Hubei and Daegu.
On 12th March, Boris and his "experts" announced we were going into the "delay" phase, all it meant was oldies should not go on cruises, schools should not take foreign trips, and people with cough self isolate for 7 days. That's it. I am pretty sure you mocked them yourself. Here it is.
That was when the bloodbath was well underway in Lombardy.
My point is the government did not have to be so complacent about it, indeed they shouldn't have - with messages like that, who can blame folks here saying they are allowed to go on bike rides? Who can criticise their bravado, that they are free men unlike the Chinese, and so are having none of it?
The Government could/should have broadcast the disasters that unfolded, and the measures taken, in these other countries, and told some truths, like how many ICU beds we have free, and what 1000, 10000, and 100000 infected might mean.
I am not saying this to get some joy out of "I told you so" to anybody (and for the avoidance of doubt definitely not you), but it would be good if we can come out of this with: 1) a greater appreciation of other countries' experience - we are neither superior in our intellect nor resilience, and 2) less trusting of "experts" when what they say makes no sense to you. It is good to see other experts have now managed to change their mind, but frankly the disastrous implication of the CMO/CSA' plan can be and was demonstrated on the back of an envelope, and we all know it, just some decided to leave either common sense or serious doubt at home.
Yes. I suspect border control, combined with a test kit that produces quick result*, may well be the best course for the near future for territories that have clearly defeated the virus, like China, Singapore, Taiwan, Hongkong etc. and soon South Korea, and hopefully Britain in a few months. Until a vaccine has been found and proven safe, that is.
A "2nd wave" is therefore not inevitable.
The elephant in the room, is actually about the layoffs, the bankruptcies, and the resulting human tragedies. I don't know what the best considered answer is at this point, but if I were the government, my gut feeling is I would implement a social and economical safety net, WHATEVER IT COSTS, to minimise sufferings and to maximise the chance and speed of recovery.
In case it is not obvious, letting hundreds of thousands die first would not have lessened either the economical or the human tragedy, or made recovery quicker or faster, in fact the exact opposite. What about the depreciation of the £ from printing/borrowing money? All our neighbours are poorer too, their currencies will also depreciate, so does it really matter that much, and what better choice do any of us have anyway?
* a British company has claimed they are developing a test that works on a drop of blood to give result in 10 minutes. If not them, I suspect others are also trying, and will succeed eventually.
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This is not the time to go it alone!Brexit
Re. Brexit, if only all parties could do a Dallas and all get out of the shower with a bright and cheery "Morning"
- Location
- London
Yes that"s what i had, no sniffles, no runny nose, no sneezes to speak of. And the odd breathing thing which i have never experienced before, though for me it was only under exertion.
