Coronavirus outbreak

[pawl]

Walked to my local Aldi for some cat litter, got there just before 10, car park full, car park blocked, 100's of irritated wannabee shoppers outside. Really rude people, mostly fat, one bloke intent on filling his 2 trolleys with the entire stock of wood burner and bollocks to anybody else, many were of the same mindset, they made me sick.

Walking back I passed my newly married neighbours house and remembered that they are both cabin crew.

we seem to have become less caring.I was born in1941 and remember rationing .My Dad and one of his mates both had allotments.Any surplus was given to neighbours. Mum bottled soft fruits.Excess vegetables were stored in clamps.

I lived in a street of thirty houses.Every body knew every body else in the street and we supported each other.How times have changed.

I am trying not to look at those times through Rose coloured spectacles.,there was always those who would try to profit from those times.

 

[Pale Rider]

What's he done then ?

Us the USA seem to have a very hands off approach.

He is being guided by our two lead doctors/scientists, who appear to me to have a good handle on the virus and how to handle it from a UK perspective.

Boris, for this purpose, is largely irrelevant.

I would back the strategy in just the same way if Corbyn was prime minister and it was he who was adopting it.

 

[kingrollo]

He is being guided by our two lead doctors/scientists, who appear to me to have a good handle on the virus and how to handle it from a UK perspective.

Boris, for this purpose, is largely irrelevant.

I would back the strategy in just the same way if Corbyn was prime minister and it was he who was adopting it.

I don't know even know what the strategy is ??

It's like with the football - the decision was handed to the footballing authorities.

I know someone who is stranded in the canaries - the guidance quite robustly - is that you must stay indoors.

Here in the UK - half of us don't know if we should go to work tommorow. I work for a hospital and asked HR about home working - they didn't know.....

I saw a doctor being interviewed about bringing retired doctors into service and fast tracking junior doctors - he said he hadn't heard a thing....

 

[nickyboy]

i read it in about 10 minutes and thoroughly recommend it. A very worthwhile read.
our government‘s strategy on this is looking increasingly inept.

In what way is UK strategy looking inept?

Every western country is adopting a herd immunity strategy in which a lot of people get infected and the immunity stops the spread. All that is differing is the methodology to achieve herd immunity

The present R0 is about 2.3 and this requires about 60% to become infected to stop it. This % is highly susceptible to the R0. Normal flu is 1.3 and that requires about 25% to stop it in its tracks.

Every western country is trying to reduce the R0.

FWIW I think that the current strategy is a good one. We will quarantine the elderly so they, in the main, don't get it. Everyone else MUST adopt measures to reduce the R0. The infection will pass through the younger and healthier. If we could get the R0 down to 1.3 then once about 25% are infected it will die out and all our at risk population is spared.

 

[derrick]

Ha ha.

 

[Mugshot]

Right I'm off to the shops only need the day to day stuff. It will either be like a walk in the park or an reenactment of the charge of the light brigade. ...."Wish me luck as you wave be good bye"

Me too, just getting my stuff together

 

[Glow worm]

In what way is UK strategy looking inept?

I watched the PMs press conference last week, with the health and science advisors present and I thought the approach they were presenting to be very sensible and reasonable. The exponential growth of this thing though has me thinking that maybe we’re not doing nearly enough. the only thing that seems to combat this thing anything like effectively is complete lockdown- look at the China figures in that paper up thread.
I just heard the health secretary on the radio saying he felt that asking people to self isolate at this stage for 4 weeks would be too much, that they’d get bored, and I do agree it sounds like hell, but better bored than dead.

 

[Rocky]

He is being guided by our two lead doctors/scientists, who appear to me to have a good handle on the virus and how to handle it from a UK perspective.

Boris, for this purpose, is largely irrelevant.

I would back the strategy in just the same way if Corbyn was prime minister and it was he who was adopting it.

I’m no fan of Boris or Cummings, as you know, but I agree 100% with what you say. Boris is listening to the science. Cummings has apparently formed a good working relationship with Vallance. It is hard to see what else anyone could do. I sometimes think Boris trivialises things (squash the sombrero) but it’s a very good way of getting the message across.

 

[MarkF]

we seem to have become less caring.I was born in1941 and remember rationing .My Dad and one of his mates both had allotments.Any surplus was given to neighbours. Mum bottled soft fruits.Excess vegetables were stored in clamps.

I lived in a street of thirty houses.Every body knew every body else in the street and we supported each other.How times have changed.

I am trying not to look at those times through Rose coloured spectacles.,there was always those who would try to profit from those times.

The people are different now too, I am generalising but I had a good look this morning. Pasty, flabby people exiting flabby suv's and fighting over rubbish food that's only going to make them flabbier. I am in reet bad mood, can feel a rocky trolley trip to the wards for these folk later on today.

 

[GetAGrip]

I've been really strict with wiping everything down counter tops, handles, Keys etc. with antiseptics and bleach. Washing hands regularly and basically doing everything required to the point of being a bore to those around me.
I noticed this morning the Simple liquid soap we use because of sensitive skin is actually soap free. My question is to any folk who may know, is it still going to be effective against the corona virus? I've been to their site but there is no information at all. Any advice on who to ask?

 

[Milzy]

I just hope we're sent home from work soon. It's going to be a very difficult choice of what to do in isolation. Road cycling, Gravel biking or unlock some Zwift challenges?

 

[Pale Rider]

I’m no fan of Boris

I am a fan, as you know, but leaving that aside I thought he appeared well briefed and on top of things.

Despite being a fan, I fully accept that to a degree he is a chancer and often seems to get away with 'winging it'.

Encouraging, at least for me, to see that he does have the capability to be a serious politician.

 

[alicat]

I noticed this morning the Simple liquid soap we use because of sensitive skin is actually soap free. My question is to any folk who may know, is it still going to be effective against the corona virus? I've been to their site but there is no information at all. Any advice on who to ask?

If your hands are clean and you're avoiding touching your face, you're doing the best that you can. IMHO they're saying use soap and water because they're readily available and cheaper than hand sanitiser.

 

[Milzy]

If your hands are clean and you're avoiding touching your face, you're doing the best that you can. IMHO they're saying use soap and water because they're readily available and cheaper than hand sanitiser.

Mainly because the virus has a very weak thin membrane so soap is enough.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

@Proto

This may be of use to you:

https://www.fscs.org.uk/how-we-work/temporary-high-balances/