Coronavirus outbreak

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Milzy

Guru
If factories are remaining open then why the frack are the employees not tested? I'd happily carry on working so long as the infected are sent away.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
All public places close Wednesday
All house confined from friday
Until 1st june
(All international travel till late July)

#nopanic

I have no source but it's a hunch I've got. We will see.
I hope not we've a holiday in early June. It's the only one we have :sad:
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Whilst by then we're hoping faster and cheaper test kits have come out, work on a vaccine has started properly and crossing fingers that remdesivir "works" on any kind of scale.
Whilst trying not to appear rude, I think you're dreaming if you think this will happen

To bring this home, my friend in Alicante is really unhappy because, as from Monday, he is barred by law from riding his bike. Don't be surprised if we have similar in UK soon. Get as much riding in as you can. Very good chance there's will be no outdoor cycling in UK soon
 
I must admit to not having the knowledge to decide if the government's strategy for the virus is correct or not. I can Google it and get loads of different opinions, but that is not the same as having enough knowledge of the subject.

I hope that the government's approach does examine and take into account the possibility that there may be other/better methods. This BBC report shows there is some disagreement among scientists about the strategy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
I must admit to not having the knowledge to decide if the government's strategy for the virus is correct or not. I can Google it and get loads of different opinions, but that is not the same as having enough knowledge of the subject.

I hope that the government's approach does examine and take into account the possibility that there may be other/better methods. This BBC report shows there is some disagreement among scientists about the strategy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402

I have no idea what's correct either but I do know if you put 5 scientists into a room, they'll develop 7 theories.
 
Whilst by then we're hoping faster and cheaper test kits have come out, work on a vaccine has started properly and crossing fingers that remdesivir "works" on any kind of scale.
Nail on head - we are hoping faster test kits come out....

I think Boris Johnson is hoping they start falling from the sky , along with ITU beds, Doctors and nurses !
 

Milzy

Guru
If Corbyn didn't have the media against him, he'd be in power now, all on lock down with more ICU's.
 

stowie

Legendary Member
I must admit to not having the knowledge to decide if the government's strategy for the virus is correct or not. I can Google it and get loads of different opinions, but that is not the same as having enough knowledge of the subject.

I hope that the government's approach does examine and take into account the possibility that there may be other/better methods. This BBC report shows there is some disagreement among scientists about the strategy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402

I am certainly not in a position to understand the details of the strategies for virus management.

But, on the face of it (dare I say it..) the government's position makes certain sense. With no vaccine it seems logical that any measures will only delay the spread of the virus. But the actions range from almost none to total lock down. And the other side of the coin is disruption to lives and the economy. Which is an important factor, a big recession will harm people as well. Plus liberal democracies won't take to indeterminate lock-downs in the same way as possibly the Chinese system might. Lock down now and it is possible that when it is really required then people will have become complacent and unwilling to comply.

It is a tight-rope. And governments will only get recognised when they get it wrong. And not recognised in a good way.
 

stowie

Legendary Member
If Corbyn didn't have the media against him, he'd be in power now, all on lock down with more ICU's.

He would have only been in power for a few months. Not enough time to make a significant difference to ICU facilities.
 
At this moment I am stumped as to detail. My local bar sells depot bread on a Thursday when the bakery is closed so I doubt they are a food shop. I'm curious to know how the plumbers are going to buy fittings for a particular job when the brico is closed. The job being something along the lines of your drinking water tap or your toilet.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Virus management outside of containment is the three things every government on earth is hoping happens that I said - kits, vaccine, remdesivir. It's not my policy (for the hard of thinking or those that have drunk too much beer tonight).

The stuff the last few days about ACE2 and patients on drugs around that is fascinating. Might explain why high death rates in certain groups. You could also possibly switch patients off ACE inhibitors. Sneaky virus. Sneaky science. Maybe even some time in future asking questions to patients if they are on ACE inhibitors.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Plus liberal democracies won't take to indeterminate lock-downs in the same way as possibly the Chinese system might. Lock down now and it is possible that when it is really required then people will have become complacent and unwilling to comply.

I agree with this. I think we'll only get one shot at an effective quarantine period.

I also think we should be seeing a cross-party crisis committee working on this, help put an end to all the political point-scoring.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I think you're right but a week previous

If and when it does happen, people who have been assiduously hand washing, social distancing etc can look at those who couldn't be arsed and point the finger at them and say "you did this"

HK has had the result it has because the population completely understands what is needed and they did it. For sure some governmental edicts helped, but what stopped it in its tracks was the will of the people

I've been saying for weeks and weeks that this is farking serious. All those that said "it's just flu", "it's overhyped"...thanks a farking lot

Spot on

For years as a kid some of my relatives use to go on about if we had a war now we'd have no chance. I use to think oh ok here we go again well now after seeing how many have carried on. I now think they got it right at a time we should have been coming together and doing basic simple things. They'd rather fight over toilet roll and tins of beans well next time they go about YP. Just remember it was not them who acted like kids filling trollies up with anything and ever thing even if they have no idea what 1/2 the stuff is. Thinking stuff everyone else who cares.

Well some of us do and now many of us are going to have to deal with all this. For some like Mrs 73 that means going well beyond what's normal and who know at what risk in order to give them back a normal life.

So thanks a bunch for nothing.
 
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