Coronavirus outbreak

[Blue Hills]

Can I ask what advice folk are giving elderly relatives?

I understand that current government advice is that they should not stay in.

That the time for that will be when the thing hits its peak.

But surely to have hit that peak lots and lots of folk will have got the thing and many more will have died, the majority of them elderly?

Are they just spinning a line to avoid panic?

Or doing some calculation based on a concept of "greater good"?

Though it will be a long drag I can't help but think that the best advice is for old folk to just stay in.

Views?

 

[Racing roadkill]

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People getting out more would increase transmission ? Hence the lockdowns around the world ?

Not so, look for the advice from the chief scientific advisor. It’s out there ( in Tw@er and Bookface as well) ironically. It shows that once you break up close communal situations, these types of infections typically reduce.

 

[Rocky]

Relax. The U.K. has far better hygiene standards than the rest of the world ( pretty much ) if you keep panicking unnecessarily, you’ll add to the problem.

And do you have any evidence for this statement? It seems very imperialist to me. The UK will be ok because we wash our hands more thoroughly than other countries and never sneeze in public.

Oh, I’m not sure where you get the idea I’m panicking. I’m not. I’m quite sanguine about it.

 

[Blue Hills]

Not so, look for the advice from the chief scientific advisor. It’s out there ( in Tw@er and Bookface as well) ironically.

can you outline/explain this?

 

[Racing roadkill]

And do you have any evidence for this statement? It seems very imperialist to me. The UK will be ok because we wash our hands more thoroughly than other countries and never sneeze in public.

Although your comment was tongue in cheek, you actually hit the nail on the head.

 

[Rocky]

Although your comment was tongue in cheek, you actually hit the nail on the head.

Wrong. Just look at threads on CC and Twitter about people sneezing on shop assistants for example.

edit: hope this helps


View: https://twitter.com/_curious_one/status/1238788012596748289?s=21

 

[Racing roadkill]

Wrong. Just look at threads on CC and Twitter about people sneezing on shop assistants for example.

Yeah, ignore Tw@er, it’s a great source of unfounded bullshit.

 

[Rocky]

Yeah, ignore Tw@er, it’s a great source of unfounded bullshit.

As are some of the ill informed posts here. BTW my wife is a Prof of Medicine and my younger son is an A&E doctor. So you forgive me if I don’t take any of your advice.

 

[marinyork]

Can I ask what advice folk are giving elderly relatives?

I understand that current government advice is that they should not stay in.

Views?

That people have no protection against this, none. That they got mindbendingly lucky in 2009-10 with swine flu and that raged around the student and people under 30 population like wildwire. That this one seems pretty consistent with being very deadly for compromised immune systems and heart/breathing/other problems. Point out to them that they've been in hospital before for pneumonia.

Minimise trips outside, prepare for whole weeks inside. Particularly avoid children who are believed to spread it easier and those who are highly mobile such as affluent students, academics, business people or anyone that doesn't have a boring job and doesn't have a limited social life e.g. work/home/work/home/work/home.

Wash hands for at least 20 seconds up to the wrists, do this around 20 times a day, particularly after hands are touching things and going from one activity to another. If talking to someone try and remain in the habit of being a metre away, imagine them coughing over you as according to some tropical disease specialists the respiratory side of this is spread by coughing (over people and surfaces). Is this person far enough away? Imagine if someone else in your household had the virus and wasn't showing any symptoms yet, what would you do differently and what would you tell them to do differently?

Wash non-porous surfaces such as mobile phones every day with soap and water. Other ones like all door handles in the house. Look at tea towel and towel washing frequency and separation.

 

[MontyVeda]

Do you work for one of the big boys?

not one of the 'big four'

 

[Dave7]

I think she's got the right idea...

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Nearly crying laughing over that one.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Wrong. Just look at threads on CC and Twitter about people sneezing on shop assistants for example.

edit: hope this helps


View: https://twitter.com/_curious_one/status/1238788012596748289?s=21

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Marie Salisbury@_curious_one

'I work for a supermarket, I cannot participate with social distancing & ive had customers sneeze & cough on me. It’s truly disgusting. I’m also sick of grief we are getting due to lack of stock or restrictions, I don’t make the rules & I didn’t panic buy so pls don’t abuse me.'


Shop workers have always born the brunt of customers germ spreading and aggression. The former Mrs Accy used to tell of 'fully grown men' threatening female staff,even waiting to confront them outside after their shift was over,if there wasn't something available they just had to have. We live apart now,so i don't know how her and her colleagues are coping,but i bet they've had to put up with some right fecking @rse holes!!

 

[Dave7]

I personally think it is serious. I'm 63 and I have never seen anything like this that has had such an impact on the medics that are treating it. You might end up asymptomatic but there's been plenty of cases of doctors who have died as a result of simply going to work and treating infected patients.

63......a mere child

 

[RecordAceFromNew]

For those who support the Government's stance, or think it is all an over-reaction, what exactly has the government done so far that should have stopped or will stop the exponential growth to date as shown below?

What is going to stop the exponential growth for the next week or two, when the already infected over the past week show their symptoms and develop their complications, day after day?

This is when we all know infection can be curtailed, without waiting until hitting a bloodbath like in Italy, as amply demonstrated below:

 

[Racing roadkill]

As are some of the ill informed posts here. BTW my wife is a Prof of Medicine and my younger son is an A&E doctor. So you forgive me if I don’t take any of your advice.

Do what you like, I don’t give a crap.