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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Though not as trivial as just ordering a box of kits with genuine numbers, that won't require you type in an average of 5 different numbers per test in order to find one that's accepted ...

You don’t need to type 5 in if you know how the check digit is calcd. It’s trivial. But anyway we digress. The point is LFT negative as proof isn’t all that robust at all.
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
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You don’t need to type 5 in if you know how the check digit is calcd. It’s trivial. But anyway we digress. The point is LFT negative as proof isn’t all that robust at all.

Well I look forward to your exposition of exactly how it's calculated (presumably similar to the credit card algorithm?).

But in the meantime, yes, we can agree on your last point.
 
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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So no paper exists you say. So you are saying the 75% is just a figure made up by papers. If you understood probability you’d understand that the 75% could never refer to the protection an individual is conferred via a booster jab.

I looked this up today and IF I have got this right the 75% comes from for example if you had 1000 placebo and 1000 with vaccine and 4 placebo got sick or died and 1 in the vaccinated group then that is 75% reduction, so if we had natural immunity in 90% of the population or in 10% of the population it makes no difference to the efficacy of these vaccine, they can offer zero protection to 9 out of 10 people and still be 75% .
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
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Reading, obvs
Well I look forward to your exposition of exactly how it's calculated (presumably similar to the credit card algorithm?).
Oh I’ll save that for night you can’t sleep 😴

Happily, very few things keep me awake at night, and wondering whether you really do understand the test strip number algorithm isn't one of them. :smile:

But I appreciate your concern, thanks.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Inside my skull
Happily, very few things keep me awake at night, and wondering whether you really do understand the test strip number algorithm isn't one of them. :smile:

But I appreciate your concern, thanks.

Check digit algorithms really aren’t that complicated. Their purpose is purely to catch mistyped numbers and no more. Given my background yes easy to work out.
 

craigwend

Grimpeur des terrains plats
News to me. Seems quite excessive at first glance but I'm sure it makes sense to someone.

Thanks for posting that.
Apparently only to the end of January - best guess to stop GP surgeries being inundated with sick note requests / closed for the Bank Holidays...?
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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I've been very supportive of most Covid measures so far but I think I have now had enough in the light of potential 'further measures' and a possible 'circuit break' that could be taken. Also - cue asorted bleatings for more cash to be pumped into ailing businesses and mention of the costly furlow scheme etc.

This report from the BBC News sums up the problem to me supporting the view that the majority of hospitalised Covid patients are unvaccinated. Anyone got access to more data on this please?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59667190

Sky were also reporting that the bulk of the problem in London was from unvaccinated ethnic communities. Anyone have any hard data on this please?

Just get frigging vaccinated! :cursing:
 

Slick

Guru
Further measures now beyond question, as if it ever was. :sad:

Personally, I think I could deal with a 2 week circuit breaker as long as Mrs Slick gets her Christmas she has planned for her family who all seem to be coming to us this year.

The problems will start if it goes beyond the 2 weeks, which it inevitably will. Not sure I could do the whole restrictive practices while trying to keep the organisation going that I work for.

I will of course, as there simply is no alternative.
 

lazybloke

Priest of the cult of Chris Rea
Location
Leafy Surrey
I've been very supportive of most Covid measures so far but I think I have now had enough in the light of potential 'further measures' and a possible 'circuit break' that could be taken. Also - cue asorted bleatings for more cash to be pumped into ailing businesses and mention of the costly furlow scheme etc.

This report from the BBC News sums up the problem to me supporting the view that the majority of hospitalised Covid patients are unvaccinated. Anyone got access to more data on this please?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59667190

Sky were also reporting that the bulk of the problem in London was from unvaccinated ethnic communities. Anyone have any hard data on this please?

Just get frigging vaccinated! :cursing:
The stats in your link support the need for vaccination - if I read it correctly, 82% (9 out of 11) covid patients in St George's ICU were unvaccinated.

But the majority of ICU covid cases will likely be Delta/Plus variants.
So anger at the unvaccinated might change to alarm that the vaccinated are also vulnerable again; omicron could cause a very dramatic rise in ICU occupancy.

And let's not forget that millions are yet eligible for their 2nd or even their 1st jab, let alone their boosters.
What about the most vulnerable, who had boosters back in September - that protection might be waning already.


You say you were supportive of covid measure but have "had enough", so are you now unsupportive of current and possibly future measures?
How do you think we should react to the omicron wave?
 
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