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Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Struck me this morning shopping why do not self service checkouts automatically default to contactless payment so avoiding the need to touch anything. At least unlike last week not a cough to be heard anywhere or on the other hand maybe Morrisons has better mannered shoppers than Sainsbury's.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Not sure about this one at least, I have been keeping an eye on this part when I was told about it the other day. Its only just been suggested so its probably too soon to make the claim that they will all be put to work. They will be asked, and not just signed off.





https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/w...nurses-to-help-tackle-coronavirus-11-03-2020/
Mrs 73 has issues with this idea bringing them in to do care up to the level they are at is one thing but say they they are now qualified is another.As 3rd year students they can do quite a bit already with out just signing them off early. How are they able to be supervised and supported by fully qualified staff ? Bring them in and once this is over are they going to be removed from the register and made to do the 6 mouths they will have missed? It would be a bit bad to get them in pay them on band 5 then to take it all away at a later date.
The NMC is a waste of time as it is so can't see any help or support coming from them any time soon either. I know this is all part of longer term planning but it leaves many questions.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
A close school friend of Mrs 73 mother is days from dying of cancer. She's in a care hame who have now gone into lock down. Her friend has been told she can't visit. Her friend is no more a risk than the staff , district nurse or GP who are still coming and going. The home is not even willing to talk about visiting but with infection control measures being taken. All they have said is if they think she is about to die they may let her say good by to her mum. By which time it will too late.
She had such a hard time since her mums been ill the last few mouths this is all she need's :sad:
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Mrs 73 has issues with this idea bringing them in to do care up to the level they are at is one thing but say they they are now qualified is another.As 3rd year students they can do quite a bit already with out just signing them off early. How are they able to be supervised and supported by fully qualified staff ? Bring them in and once this is over are they going to be removed from the register and made to do the 6 mouths they will have missed? It would be a bit bad to get them in pay them on band 5 then to take it all away at a later date.
The NMC is a waste of time as it is so can't see any help or support coming from them any time soon either. I know this is all part of longer term planning but it leaves many questions.
In Wuhan, which at the height of their epidemic is several orders of magnitude worse than hopefully we will face, all hospital employees were allocated frontline jobs, regardless of background. For example western doctor was assisted into full health PPE by someone. Doctor asked if that person was also a doctor. Turns out she was the receptionist who was assigned the role and learned on the job
 

Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
My wife just emailed me to say her department at Cambridge University is likely to close until at least May due to the virus. She'll work from home on full pay, but thinks she won't be able to do much from home.
The garden is going to look amazing!
 

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
I am a tutor with Shepherd Group Youth Brass Band in York. The band have entered the National Youth Brass Band Championships due to be held on 28th March. This is the first time we have entered this competition as it is the first time we have felt that the band has reached a good enough standard. The 35 young people have been working their socks off on what is a very difficult set work for months. I have just found out that the competition is cancelled. 10 of our young players are 18 and will not get the chance to compete again. Whilst I realise that the world of youth brass banding is very insignificant in all of this, to say I am gutted is an understatement.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
A couple of the big UK insurance firms (Direct Line and Churchill) have ceased the sale of travel cover to any new customers as a result of Covid-19. Axa has stated, "If you purchase a new policy now, it will not cover any trip cancellation or disruption in relation to coronavirus."

Luckily I have an annual policy but I still won't be going abroad anywhere until this has peaked.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
In Wuhan, which at the height of their epidemic is several orders of magnitude worse than hopefully we will face, all hospital employees were allocated frontline jobs, regardless of background. For example western doctor was assisted into full health PPE by someone. Doctor asked if that person was also a doctor. Turns out she was the receptionist who was assigned the role and learned on the job

I fully understand the situation may need some very different solutions. The receptionist will no doubt go back to the day job. We can't really hand out full professional registration to students and pay them as band 5 nurses. Then take it away at a later date. Nurse training is 3 years for a reason. Not to mansion the post qualification 6 month Preceptorship. Not all nurse training is same some don't learn some clinical skills when training it depends if the uni include it in the training. Some skills you can only be signed off to do once qualified so they will have gaps in skills as it is with out missing 6 month of training on top. If they are not going to make them catch up at later date.

Without clear guidance and support to current qualified nurses it's going to be hard to know how they stand. Given the NMC are totally useless at anything other than taking your money. It's not going to come from them so any emergency legislation is going have to make this very clear or many will be really concerned of losing the registration they've work hard for once this situation is over.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
208 more UK cases, 798 total. Rise of 35%.

We're bang on 10 days behind Italy and following an identical trajectory.

Not wanting to be overly negative, but it now looks likely to get very bad, very quickly.

I shall be trying to persuade my (alas not local) cussed 80yo parents to behave sensibly. I doubt I'll succeed.
 
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Stephenite

Membå
Location
OslO
My wife's sister and husband live in Norway, their son has just been told to return home from Uni in York ASAP and to self isolate for 14 days.
Yes. I forgot to mention that bit.

The son being in quarantine means the other members of the household will also be in quarantine.

People arriving in Norway who are not a resident of the nordic countries are asked to return to their home country.

https://www.visitnorway.com/plan-your-trip/coronavirus-and-travelling-to-norway/
 
Location
London
Trump likes us, has interests here - and there's a hell of a lot of citizens in the USA of Irish ancestry, so not banning them plays well to his domestic audience. It is an election year after all.

On the other hand, Trump doesn't like the EU, and it's free movement principles. Not one little bit does he like the EU. The virus gives Trump a good opportunity to have a general swipe at the EU, and at the same time appear to be "doing the right thing" by keeping germ-carrying Europeans who could have travelled anywhere in the Schengen area, out of the US. If the infection rates don't get too astronomical, Trump will take the credit for taking tough action, and if it gets bad anyway he'll say "I tried my best but there were too many nasty foreigners already here". Trump doesn't care what the rest of the world, apart from his closest allies, think of his actions - and even then appealing to his own support base takes priority over everything and everyone else.
Thanks for the brutal truth.
 

Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
What's her role - with VPN I can do everything I need to

I think the IT side should be OK, but because she's involved in lots of events, its more hands on, in-the-office and at venues type stuff. Also, there won't be nearly as much to do because the events probably won't be happening now.
 
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