Coronavirus outbreak

[Deleted User]

Except this is stuff I was trained for and have the tools to do, so the time is not so copious and I am still cycling lots and lobbying councils for better infrastructure too.

Well done you.

 

[neil_merseyside]

Not sure this is the thread for this but a friend just related how an Iranian they know was very pleased his Covid test was positive!
Is this how we are getting some problems when English isn't first language?
This bloke was a solicitor/lawyer in Iran when he legged it (before he was 'disappeared') so not stupid by any means, his English was very poor just 6 months ago but his grasp of language now is beyond me, he has to quiz an English teacher about participles and stuff.

 

[lazybloke]

Trouble is, I don't think any party would have done much better in this instance ( and we'll never know) so I'm not suddenly going to become some left wing tree hugger because we've gone through a pandemic.

I agree that mistakes were likely in the early days of the pandemic, and perhaps some of them might even be forgiveable, but I'm not so sure Boris has an excuse for being so tardy with his 2nd lockdown, or for failing to stop the spread of the Indiant variant currently.

I notice other countries have started imposing blocks on uk tourists, or strict quarantine measures . Good! International travel is a stupid idea at the mo.

 

[Kajjal]

I agree that mistakes were likely in the early days of the pandemic, and perhaps some of them might even be forgiveable, but I'm not so sure Boris has an excuse for being so tardy with his 2nd lockdown, or for failing to stop the spread of the Indiant variant currently.

I notice other countries have started imposing blocks on uk tourists, or strict quarantine measures . Good! International travel is a stupid idea at the mo.

This is the key the level of mistakes and if they are continually repeated. The UK‘s problem seems to be an inability to take charge and promptly make the difficult decisions which are coming rapidly one after another. Vague and indecisive is costly.

 

[lane]

Hospital admissions seem to be increasing in line with cases which obviously raises the question regarding the link being broken between cases and hospitalisations and must raise questions about the roadmap.

 

[midlife]

Hospital admissions seem to be increasing in line with cases which obviously raises the question regarding the link being broken between cases and hospitalisations and must raise questions about the roadmap.

Some hospitals are starting to cancel operations as post op places in ITU are being squeezed again

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Some hospitals are starting to cancel operations as post op places in ITU are being squeezed again

Is that in the hot-spot areas? I'm assuming they are as the national number is pretty static at mid 900's.

 

[lane]

Overall cases are up 20% 7 day average and so are hospitalisations. That is nationally - concentrated in hotspot areas - although history shows the virus does have a tendency to spread about.

Edit - hospitalization = number admitted not total in hospital

 

[midlife]

Is that in the hot-spot areas? I'm assuming they are as the national number is pretty static at mid 900's.

This report from yesterday concerns Birmingham

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-57114877

But nearer to me the North East are taking more covid cases.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

This report from yesterday concerns Birmingham

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-57114877

But nearer to me the North East are taking more covid cases.

Must be a very localised issue as there are only around 750 Covid patients in hospital in England. A fairly static number too.

No idea how many in ICU although around 115 are on mechanical ventilators, again a fairly static number.

On Sky News today they said case numbers were rising but there is no significant impact on hospitalisation numbers.

The current stat's seem to bear this out.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Overall cases are up 20% 7 day average and so are hospitalisations. That is nationally - concentrated in hotspot areas - although history shows the virus does have a tendency to spread about.

Edit - hospitalization = number admitted not total in hospital

I don't see that 7 day figure as particularly significant. Presumably it is based on the 3 days a week or so back when hospitalisations dipped slightly under 100 per day for the first time in ages?

Even so the numbers are very low, more so if you look back to just last month.

 

[lane]

The point is cases are going to increase very significantly over the next few weeks. Cases will be so high that based on past experience it would have put the NHS under pressure. The hope is that this won't happen because despite the large increase in cases vaccination has broken the link between cases and hospitalisations. The fact cases and hospitalisations are increasing at the same rate has to be a cause for significant concern. This issue will no be masked due to the bank holiday.

 

[lane]

I don't see that 7 day figure as particularly significant. Presumably it is based on the 3 days a week or so back when hospitalisations dipped slightly under 100 per day for the first time in ages?

Even so the numbers are very low, more so if you look back to just last month.

The increase in cases we have seen over three peaks have been preceded by low rates so I don't see rates being low as reassuring. The issue is direction of travel.

 

[Deleted User]

The point is cases are going to increase very significantly over the next few weeks. Cases will be so high that based on past experience it would have put the NHS under pressure.

There were 60,000 new cases per day not long ago and thankfully the NHS coped so I can't see how you think it won't now that the vast majority of the country have had at least 1 jab. Just more Boris bashing if you ask me.

 

[midlife]

There were 60,000 new cases per day not long ago and thankfully the NHS coped so I can't see how you think it won't now that the vast majority of the country have had at least 1 jab. Just more Boris bashing if you ask me.

The NHS coped because of redeployment and running a covid treatment service mainly. For example my consultant surgical colleague had all his operating lists cancelled and ended up on an elderly care and stroke ward while the nurses and junior staff were looking after covid patients.

The NHS is trying to run a pre-covid service plus some more to play catch up and each ITU bed occupied by a covid patient blocks this extra activity.