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Why do you even spend a thought on all this?
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deptfordmarmoset
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The pursuit of understanding? Discussing ideas? It looks like a completely legitimate use of the thread to me.
mjr
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It was raining, so instead of going out on the bike, I thought about why I've only seen the previous generation of my family on video calls for over a year and wondered if there was a better approach to what was done. Seems there was.
Why aren't you livid about the thousands extra killed by dithering?
Profpointy
Legendary Member
A number of my Indian collegues had gone back for family reasons, funerals sadly for some, and they were required to quarantine in a hotel back here on their return. It was all quite strict, and they happily complied and saw it as sensible / necessary and it cost them a fair wodge of cash too. Probably helped that our industry (IT/telecomms) is well placed for zoom meetings and remote working
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
At times it has been shambolic. But then sudden outbreaks of disease tend to be sudden. I have been extremely critical of this government but the vaccine rollout has been a huge success and therefore saved thousands of lives, I'm quite sure...
I'm sure many are very critical of our EU partners who have largely dithered over AZ vaccine, how many lives has that cost? We should all be critical where criticism is due, irrespective of which political team you support...
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
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Far less.
The EU vaccine rollout is about six weeks behind; most deaths are reduced by restrictions, not vaccinating in this phase.
That's not too say they've been great, just nowhere near as bad as the pervading narrative.
Far less.
The EU vaccine rollout is about six weeks behind; most deaths are reduced by restrictions, not vaccinating in this phase.
That's not too say they've been great, just nowhere near as bad as the pervading narrative.
Deleted User
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I take your point, but conversely apathetic indifference and a shrug of the shoulders is also wrong if it gives those who failed in their responsibilities the idea that they can get away with it because no-one really cares.
I don't think when the history of this is written that the death toll actually due to covid will stand out all that much, what might well stand out is an increased death toll due to postponed operations caused by an overloaded healthcare system, which in turn was due to government incompetence.
Beware propaganda designed to make you forget what happened - I recently had a phone call to my sister who said she now thinks Boris didn't do such a bad job after all. She reads the Torygraph. I don't think this is unrelated to her new-found admiration for Boris.
mjr
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Melbourne back in lockdown due to 26 cases. Suspected leak from quarantine hotel blamed by some. https://www.thejournal.ie/melbourne-placed-in-lockdown-due-to-covid-19-surge-5449339-May2021/
mjr
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You might start asking good questions about things you do control, such as who you elect or support to govern.
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Fair enough, me being Livid and spending copious amounts of time working out stats and reports from numerous different Countries certainly won't make me feel any more 'at one' with the World though.
If it works for others then who am I to criticise, just asking that's all.
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mjr
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Except this is stuff I was trained for and have the tools to do, so the time is not so copious and I am still cycling lots and lobbying councils for better infrastructure too.
mjr
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I suppose from that that you're a committed right winger. If so, I don't mind if you don't turn left, but I wish you'd at least try to elect more competent right-wingers! I suspect pretty much any other Tory PM of my lifetime would have done better than this one.
Ajax Bay
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@shep People get their therapy in different ways - as you may have seen from this thread et al. I thought @mjr's graphing was a good effort. I think one could (argue and) tweak a few parameters and get a different conclusion but that's stats for you (and I'm sure he knows this) - sensitivity 'testing'. The current key question/decision with which the government, with copious advice from many quarters, is grappling is to decide whether the final relaxation of legal restrictions should happen on 21 June or be delayed. The government has previously been criticised for delaying actions.
Pleased to say, with some freedoms now restored to the UK population (on 17 May), I enjoyed a ride to a not very local pub last night and enjoyed a pint outside in the evening sunshine and, (group reduced to 6) a pint inside before a ride home with an amazing full moon just risen above the sea horizon. 'Mad Hatter' since you ask.
Pleased to say, with some freedoms now restored to the UK population (on 17 May), I enjoyed a ride to a not very local pub last night and enjoyed a pint outside in the evening sunshine and, (group reduced to 6) a pint inside before a ride home with an amazing full moon just risen above the sea horizon. 'Mad Hatter' since you ask.
