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Losing people before there time - to me that means healthy people dying young ?

They are talking mostly about people in their 60s, 70s and 80s who would otherwise have lived to their 80s or 90s. People's parents and grandparents. A lot of elderly people have underlying health conditions that are perfectly manageable outside this virus.

Young is a subjective term that can vary.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
He looks like a dosser to me. A real cross-the-road-if-he's-walking-towards-you type. The sort who'd be asking you if you could lend him a couple of quid. I know it's wrong to look disparagingly at a person's sartorial foibles but the newspapers weren't shy about doing this in a recent election, were they? Or with Michael Foot a few years ago. Whitty does look like a right tramp though and there's no hiding from that.

I don't think he's got much time at the moment to worry about which tie go’s best with which suit. One of my uni lecturers looked like a mad prof inc the wild hair. He was one of the worlds most respected scientists. A life long mate another scientist is not the best dressed guy. But if my life depended on it I’d pick him any day over some smart suited snake oil seller.

If you really think it matters then god help you if tell it to a nurse about to jab you or even worse armed in one hand with a catheter and holding your crown jewels in the other.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
They are talking mostly about people in their 60s, 70s and 80s who would otherwise have lived to their 80s or 90s. People's parents and grandparents. A lot of elderly people have underlying health conditions that are perfectly manageable outside this virus.

Young is a subjective term that can vary.

This is the issue. My mum doesn't seem bothered, but I've said be careful - my parents are in fairly good health, mobile and in mid 70's, but mum is an ex smoker and her lungs aren't fab. MIL is a gonner if she gets this - mid 80's and advanced heart failure and in a nursing home - a chest infection nearly killed her 12 months ago.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
They are talking mostly about people in their 60s, 70s and 80s who would otherwise have lived to their 80s or 90s. People's parents and grandparents. A lot of elderly people have underlying health conditions that are perfectly manageable outside this virus.

Young is a subjective term that can vary.

But also young people. Mortality is lower but not zero. Maybe around 1% of 18-50 year olds will die this year if it spreads widely across all communities.
 

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
I'm in Massachusetts, USA.

My son has compromized health so I pulled him today from school, and I admit to being very concerned about him. Turns out the school cancelled tomorrow as well and many other schools are doing as well, some for 30 days. My daughter's university is closing next week for the rest of the academic year. Not that I'm bothered but most professional sports are cancelling over here as well. Many companies here are WFH. I've never seen such measures.

Massachusetts has declared a state of emergency, but that's more to release federal funding than being dramatic. The real problem has been the complete fudge up with testing, barely any tests are available so triaging can't effectively happen. Other issues are more strict work policies here that don't allow for more than 0-3 sick days, so people who are sick but need the money are going to work. And of course, some people are less likely to seek healthcare (not that they could get tested anyway) as they can't afford the health insurance.

There are many issues combining to make it a bit of a perfect storm and I think the New England area is just playing for time in an effort to flatten the curve. I hope it works but I doubt the ultimate spread will be contained to be less than 30-40%.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I really feel for you @Nigeyy Your healthcare system will end up with many ill folks due to costs, and your 'idiot' is as just as bad as our's, if not worse. At least he is acting bit - not much going on with the British 'STIFF UPPER LIP' ! :wacko:
 
Made it up did I?

Try reading this quote about two of America's 'top experts':

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the widely-respected director the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield, appeared before the House Oversight Committee for a second day of questioning Thursday and backed President Trump's travel ban from much of Europe.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gov...auci-backs-trump-travel-ban/story?id=69557417

Was he listening to the experts when he said that the travel ban would also include trade and cargo? The statement was later retracted.

He makes stuff up on the hoof and listens to experts that agree with him.

I recognise your constant desire to go against the majority view on this forum, but sometimes the majority are right.
 

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
Wish I could be a bit more optimistic about your post, but thanks for the thoughts.

I really feel for you @Nigeyy Your healthcare system will end up with many ill folks due to costs, and your 'idiot' is as just as bad as our's, if not worse. At least he is acting bit - not much going on with the British 'STIFF UPPER LIP' ! :wacko:
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Serious thought here. I came home tonight to find my dog had been sick on the carpet. He's also been off his food all day. I heard it mentioned that cats and dogs can contract the virus.

For those who can't get their hands(excuse the pun)on hand gel,try mixing ordinary household bleach about 30% bleach 70% water in a bottle with a spray top.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Serious thought here. I came home tonight to find my dog had been sick on the carpet. He's also been off his food all day. I heard it mentioned that cats and dogs can contract the virus.

For those who can't get their hands(excuse the pun)on hand gel,try mixing ordinary household bleach about 30% bleach 70% water in a bottle with a spray top.
30% bleach solution sounds waaaay too strong for hand use. Care to check the source? 3% then maybe....
 
Serious thought here. I came home tonight to find my dog had been sick on the carpet. He's also been off his food all day. I heard it mentioned that cats and dogs can contract the virus.

For those who can't get their hands(excuse the pun)on hand gel,try mixing ordinary household bleach about 30% bleach 70% water in a bottle with a spray top.

Interesting idea :wacko: where did you get it from?

My own tip, if you haven't got hand gel, is to wash your hands in boiling water. What could go wrong?
 
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