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Rocky

Hello decadence
It looked more like any excuse to kick a Tory.

Some might say Sturgeon should have paused in her mad dash to the microphone to brief her own ministers and officials first.
Me kick a Tory? I am the one who is a distant cousin of Margaret Thatcher (and John Major). Would I kick a Tory?
 

deptfordmarmoset

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Oh!! And an hour late, up he pops!! Boris is now giving a statement.......could someone tell him that Nicola has already briefed us on the COBRA meeting?
From which I learnt policy is now at the dither and delay stage.
 

deptfordmarmoset

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Accy cyclist

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'And I must level with you and the British public: more families, many more families, are going to lose loved ones before their time,' he (Boris Johnson) said.

The last time we heard such words was at the start of WW2!

I've said it before i know,but the presenter of the late night phone in on radios Lancashire and Manchester should be silenced in his mocking of the scientific experts and the callers to the program who talk of how dangerous this virus is. We've just been told that this virus IS NOT like the flu! Yet the presenter insists it is and it's all being blown out of proportion. His words are dangerous as he's spreading complacency among the population.
 
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Fab Foodie

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Kirton, Devon.
As countries try to close borders and limit movement, one of the emerging issues is long distance haulage and lorry drivers not being allowed to deliver or not willing to drive through certain countries....
 
This is also about having confidence in our leaders.......words, actions and timing are really important.

And I suspect that that confidence, or lack of it, will be tribal.
 
For anyone who believes that effective hand washing is just plan pointless and ineffective at preventing/limiting the spread of disease. Would you be happy if the a surgeon called to see you before an operation with clearly unclean hands after coming straight from the allotment. When you ask are you going to wash that soil off they rely no it's just a bit of muck you will fine.

If hand washing was pointless or had little effect Mrs 73 and most HCP's hands would have seen condemned as a danger to public health years ago. Never mind the list of highly infectious disease we'd both have come down with over the years.
I don't think anyone is saying hand washing is pointless - the questions are:-

1.) How effective is handwashing against the spread of covid 19

2 .) Is the major method of transmission via the virus settling on hard surfaces or airborne droplets ???? - if it's the latter then handwashing will only have a limited impact.
 

Milzy

Guru
I don't think anyone is saying hand washing is pointless - the questions are:-

1.) How effective is handwashing against the spread of covid 19

2 .) Is the major method of transmission via the virus settling on hard surfaces or airborne droplets ???? - if it's the latter then handwashing will only have a limited impact.
I think you've fallen a bit behind with it all now. Do you not own a smart phone?
 

RecordAceFromNew

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Location
West London
By the by, on the question asked up above by myself and @Mo1959 which I don't think we had an answer to.

Beeb did a bit earlier where they read out viewers' questions - often the best way of getting the answers that matter.

The view of the beeb medical correspondent was that if you got the thing, then yes, you would be protected for quite some time afterwards.

EDIT - it's now on their web guidance:
2. If you recover from coronavirus are you immune? RubyRed on Twitter.
Well, it is too soon to tell. This virus has only been around since the end of December, but from experience with other viruses and coronaviruses you should have antibodies to the virus which will protect you.
With Sars and other coronaviruses we tended not to see reinfection. Now there are some reports from China of people who are released from hospital subsequently testing positive but we're not sure about those tests.
However, the key thing was those people were no longer infectious.

which is good news - particularly that last sentence.

The most authoritative answer to the question I have seen is in a comment made by the US expert in the WHO team that went into China, he said they consistently said they had no example of people re-infected a second time, but presumably it is early days and things might change.

The Q&A is damning about the issue in US - man is an expert in the field, yet when he returned to US he was quarantined for 2 weeks, without ever being tested, so he couldn't go to work.
 
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