Coronavirus outbreak

[Pale Rider]

Seems to me event cancellations are also snowballing.

The London Bike Show has gone the journey, and it looks like the Australian GP is going the same way.

I've lost track of the number of football matches either cancelled or to be played behind closed doors.

The Euro football tournament is under threat, and I read somewhere the skids might be under the tennis at Wimbledon.

Any others?

A post has just been made elsewhere to say two of the Spring Classics bike races have been cancelled.

From a purely selfish point of view that's a pity because they made good viewing.

 

[randynewmanscat]

There are two houses nearby that are normally occupied during the same weeks each year and this week is not one of them. The owners of both are from Paris and late middle age I guess. I saw the couple from one of the places unpacking a car that was rammed with groceries and then wondered if they had come down here to hole up for a while.
You can only hide from a virus for so long but I understand people who have the choice and means wanting to see how the wind blows if that is what they have come to do.

 

[Blue Hills]

Trump's measures are based on advice from his Corona Virus task force.

There's a video online of the head doctor recommending, among other things, restrictions on international travel.

Of course, the Yankee doctor might be a quack, and so might everyone else in his team.

And as a special advisor to Trump, he probably won't last as long as the outbreak he's been called in to deal with.

But it's hardly fair or sensible to criticise Trump for following the advice of the doctors hired to provide it.

sorry pale rider, trump has said so many barmy things on the issue (vids available - did you see the one with him in his baseball hat where he related how amazed some specialists had supposedly been by his profound knowledge of the subject?) without bothering to consult professional advice. He makes it up as he goes along to play to his imagined audience.
Take that latest announcement - he said that trade/goods would be blocked.
Then went onto twitter to say that this in fact was not the case at all.

I'd love to know what the medical expert view was on why Britain was excluded from the ban.

Yes Britain isn't in schengen but it is very open.
(though he probably didn't grasp its diversity and open-ness when he dropped into London.

 

[Rezillo]

I wonder if the countries experiencing swamping of their intensive care services are categorising the deaths of non-covid19 patients that must result from that? It's not just intensive care-eligible non-covid19 patients who might die - there's a knock-on effect that will displace routine and emergency admissions, some of whom may also die, as hospitals scramble to find beds to accommodate the most serious cases.

 

[Blue Hills]

Seems to me event cancellations are also snowballing.

The London Bike Show has gone the journey, and it looks like the Australian GP is going the same way.

I've lost track of the number of football matches either cancelled or to be played behind closed doors.

The Euro football tournament is under threat, and I read somewhere the skids might be under the tennis at Wimbledon.

Any others?

well probably won't bring folk down as much but an event on classical sculpture I was going to at Kings College London has been cancelled. Subject was greek - but the bod giving the talk was Italian and so can't fly in. You can doubtless hear the wailing in the london streets from where you are sitting.
Have also had notice from another uni and a foreign embassy cultural place (they show films) that they may have to cancel stuff. Latter place tends to have quite a lot of aged folk - all squashed in rather a small room.

 

[vickster]

Seems to me event cancellations are also snowballing.

The London Bike Show has gone the journey, and it looks like the Australian GP is going the same way.

I've lost track of the number of football matches either cancelled or to be played behind closed doors.

The Euro football tournament is under threat, and I read somewhere the skids might be under the tennis at Wimbledon.

Any others?

Just the small matter of the Olympics and Euro 2020 (and paralympics?)

 

[PeteXXX]

With (potentially) fit healthy people self isolating, is there the possibility/probability of a birth explosion next year?
There's only so much TV you can watch!! And it's a nice way to pass the time..

 

[Rocky]

sorry pale rider, trump has said so many barmy things on the issue (vids available - did you see the one with him in his baseball hat where he related how amazed some specialists had supposedly been by his profound knowledge of the subject?) without bothering to consult professional advice. He makes it up as he goes along to play to his imagined audience.
Take that latest announcement - he said that trade/goods would be blocked.
Then went onto twitter to say that this in fact was not the case at all.

I'd love to know what the medical expert view was on why Britain was excluded from the ban.

Yes Britain isn't in schengen but it is very open.
(though he probably didn't grasp its diversity and open-ness when he dropped into London.

I'm struggling to find a medical view on why Britain was excluded. The obvious answer is that Trump owns several golf courses in the UK, which are struggling financially, and the exclusion was to protect them. I'm afraid that most of Trump's foreign and home policy decisions are about protecting or boosting his own business interests, so I wouldn't look any further than that.

 

[Blue Hills]

added to trump thing.

The beeb on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51857462

includes:
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Announcing the ban from the Oval Office on Wednesday night, Mr Trump said: "This is the most aggressive and comprehensive effort to confront a foreign virus in modern history".

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Well that is clearly complete and utter bollocks.

And he describes it as a "foreign virus" - effectively bollocks and in any case it is already well established in the US.

Now why would he use the word "foriegn"?

also:

Tom Bossert, Mr Trump's former homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, criticised the ban, saying: "There's little value to European travel restrictions. Poor use of time & energy."

he then stresses that it's already well established in the states and outlines other things needed - which trump hasn't done at all.

 

[Rocky]

But where is Boris? As of 4.50pm this afternoon there's been no communication from Boris Johnson following the COBRA meeting. It's a good job Nicola Sturgeon was able to give a press conference straight after the meeting explaining the latest thinking on Covid19..........

Where's Boris?

 

[Rocky]

But where is Boris? As of 4.50pm this afternoon there's been no communication from Boris Johnson following the COBRA meeting. It's a good job Nicola Sturgeon was able to give a press conference straight after the meeting explaining the latest thinking on Covid19..........

Where's Boris?

Oh!! And an hour late, up he pops!! Boris is now giving a statement.......could someone tell him that Nicola has already briefed us on the COBRA meeting?

 

[tom73]

For anyone who believes that effective hand washing is just plan pointless and ineffective at preventing/limiting the spread of disease. Would you be happy if the a surgeon called to see you before an operation with clearly unclean hands after coming straight from the allotment. When you ask are you going to wash that soil off they rely no it's just a bit of muck you will fine.

If hand washing was pointless or had little effect Mrs 73 and most HCP's hands would have seen condemned as a danger to public health years ago. Never mind the list of highly infectious disease we'd both have come down with over the years.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Oh!! And an hour late, up he pops!! Boris is now giving a statement.......could someone tell him that Nicola has already briefed us on the COBRA meeting?

View: https://twitter.com/ProfTomkins/status/1238144941093728256

 

[Rocky]

View: https://twitter.com/ProfTomkins/status/1238144941093728256

This is also about having confidence in our leaders.......words, actions and timing are really important.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

It looked more like any excuse to kick a Tory.

Some might say Sturgeon should have paused in her mad dash to the microphone to brief her own ministers and officials first.