Coronavirus outbreak

[vickster]

I don't think it will be that linear. I think for example if you have a GP apt and are in one of the top 4 groups - they might just jab you there and then.

Doubtful. According to my parents practice website, the vaccinations are being given at Epsom Racecourse (couple of miles away), not at the practice. I assume that’ll be the same with AZ / Oxford vaccine

 

[kingrollo]

Covid19 is more infectious with an R0 of close to 3 (some estimates put it higher). Flu has an R0 of around 1.3 depending on the strain. So infection control measures that slow covid19 may almost stop flu.
Covid19 is infectious before symptoms for roughly twice as long as flu.
In addition, more people than usual have been vaccinated against flu this year.

Plus fLu numbers get pretty low once we get to spring. We never truly got on top of covid numbers.

 

[Rocky]

The GPs won't like that - they only work 11-3 !!!

There are other issues as well - a world shortage of vials for one.

My friend who is a GP has been regularly working till 1.00am just to keep up with the paperwork. It’s a bit of a long day considering she sees her first patient at 8.00am.

 

[kingrollo]

Doubtful. According to my parents practice website, the vaccinations are being given at Epsom Racecourse (couple of miles away), not at the practice. I assume that’ll be the same with AZ / Oxford vaccine

Well I hope so. The less the GPs at my practice are involved the better.!!! - I'm hoping the hospital where I work does mine.

 

[vickster]

Well I hope so. The less the GPs at my practice are involved the better.!!! - I'm hoping the hospital where I work does mine.

Have you ever considered just changing practice? Aren’t you in a well populated area with multiple surgeries?

 

[BoldonLad]

Doubtful. According to my parents practice website, the vaccinations are being given at Epsom Racecourse (couple of miles away), not at the practice. I assume that’ll be the same with AZ / Oxford vaccine

Yes, it is similar in our area. Not a race course, but, using ex-Walkin centres. I think it may be because they need space to keep people in a holding area, after the jab, for 5-10 minutes. Just heard on news the are going to enlist pharmacies from next week.

 

[vickster]

Yes, it is similar in our area. Not a race course, but, using ex-Walkin centres. I think it may be because they need space to keep people in a holding area, after the jab, for 5-10 minutes. Just heard on news the are going to enlist pharmacies from next week.

Indeed. the racecourse buildings are massive and at present, completely unused!

 

[kingrollo]

Have you ever considered just changing practice? Aren’t you in a well populated area with multiple surgeries?

Yes once all this is over - I probably will.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Covid19 is more infectious with an R0 of close to 3 (some estimates put it higher). Flu has an R0 of around 1.3 depending on the strain. So infection control measures that slow covid19 may almost stop flu.
Covid19 is infectious before symptoms for roughly twice as long as flu.
In addition, more people than usual have been vaccinated against flu this year.

Thanks that makes sense !!

 

[mjr]

Flu infections may not be down by as much as you think.

Don't forget that anyone killed by flu who has had a positive Covid test in the previous 28 days gets classed as a Covid death, not a flu one.

Only on the rough-and-ready daily headline counts, not on the death register counts, isn't it?

 

[Johnno260]

My friend who is a GP has been regularly working till 1.00am just to keep up with the paperwork. It’s a bit of a long day considering she sees her first patient at 8.00am.

Yet I'm sure health workers get a fat nothing for a pay increase while the MP's get 10%+

 

[Rezillo]

Flu infections may not be down by as much as you think.

Don't forget that anyone killed by flu who has had a positive Covid test in the previous 28 days gets classed as a Covid death, not a flu one.

See this for analysis of figures when Covid-19, flu and pneumonia deaths between January and August last year were looked at in terms of the condition being the underlying cause of death, not just mentioned on the death certificate.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31august2020

A brief extract

Of all death occurrences between January and August 2020, there were 48,168 deaths due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) compared with 13,619 deaths due to pneumonia and 394 deaths due to influenza.

Influenza and pneumonia was mentioned on more death certificates than COVID-19, however COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death in over three times as many deaths between January and August 2020.

 

[cougie uk]

“Conspiracy mode on “ was listening to 5 Live this morning driving into work, a guy getting interviewed , data analyst type. Anyway he was going on about how Flu was down this year due to restrictions in place. He didn’t say zero but it was close to minimal. So what’s going wrong here with Covid then ?? Maybe we got the wrong end of the stick ! All a bit strange really ? Restrictions working for Flu but not COVID

Seriously ?

Everyone over 50 has been offered the flu vaccine. That and the social distancing/masks/precautions surely explains the low flu rate.

 

[cougie uk]

I think there would be absolutely loads of people that would be happy to go at anytime of day

You'd think that but the local surgery had 16 people not coming for their morning appointments so they had to ring further down the list and call people in. Which is nice as my relatives got their jabs earlier than they thought.

 

[vickster]

You'd think that but the local surgery had 16 people not coming for their morning appointments so they had to ring further down the list and call people in. Which is nice as my relatives got their jabs earlier than they thought.

There are bound to be empty slots as uptake won’t be 100.% and also there’ll be elderly folk unable to attend (on that day)