Alex321
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- South Wales
For the same reason vulnerable people have repeated flu vaccines.
And at the moment it is pretty much the same groups who are getting Covid boosters and getting flu vaccines.
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For the same reason vulnerable people have repeated flu vaccines.
And at the moment it is pretty much the same groups who are getting Covid boosters and getting flu vaccines.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Give it time
You were right. Sore arm and felt very off colour yesterday.
I seem to have got lucky. Slight sore arm in Friday evening and that was it.
presta
Guru
All change again, Moderna Spikevax this time. Side effects were mild for my first two, and none at all for the last, so hopefully this will be the same.
DRM
Guru
- Location
- West Yorks
Brace yourself, that’s what I had, sore arm, tired and lethargic, and complete brain f*rt, really just making stupid mistakes, also definitely felt weird directly afterwards, the fella that did it said don’t drive for 15 minutes.
DRM
Guru
- Location
- West Yorks
That’s true, but even those on here who have had it seem to have experienced some after effects, only a small sample I know, but Mrs DRM also felt the same too
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
That's what I had too (Moderna Spikevax). Cycled there (45 mins); was 'told' not to cycle for 15 minutes (though the doc doing the vax said that cycling would pump the blood and you'd more likely faint if sitting down). I gave it at least 5, and did not expect to 'feel weird', and didn't. Then another 70 minutes (an hour in company) to the pub; three pints and 90 mins back home (by midnight). Sorted. Got a walk-in flu jab in the town centre earlier this week (took about 10 minutes from seeing the sign).
Should I worry that with no side effects the jabs are not 'working'? 111km yesterday on sunny Isle of Purbeck.
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PaulSB
Squire
- Location
- Chorley, Lancashire
I'm don't have any science to back this up but my observation is people who have avoided infection are now succumbing to Covid. The latest being two friends who both have compromised immune systems so one can imagine how careful they have been since day one.
For me this points to one thing. Society has relaxed, Covid is simply out there meaning sooner or later everyone catches it. All the measures put in place largely worked and now they're removed the beast will continue to spread.
For me this points to one thing. Society has relaxed, Covid is simply out there meaning sooner or later everyone catches it. All the measures put in place largely worked and now they're removed the beast will continue to spread.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Yes, but.
People are catching it. Both people who don't think they've previously been infected (rightly or wrongly) and people for whom this is a repeat infect.
What measures or changes do you think we (society) should take this month, or next?
This virus, in various variants of increasingly transmissible form, has been 'out there' for 31 months. The more people (as in proportion and actual) that at any time infected, the more chance there is that those close to them, as knowns or strangers, will catch it. Vaccines have reduced the chance of, once infected, developing serious illness. The chance of this was very low under 50 and increasingly low younger than that, in those without co-morbidities or other vulnerabilities.
The danger to society (as opposed to each individual) is a health service overwhelmed by this one illness and the knock-on effects of the disproportionate burden caused: hence the 'excess deaths' not due to C-19, which, together with Long Covid, will be with us for years, as the NHS will never catch up, and there is no society/political appetite for limitless NHS funding.
The various measures adopted reduced transmission, but the increased transmissibility of eg Omicron means that even with the extraordinary restrictions this and other nations imposed on personal freedoms etc in (eg) 2020, the rate of transmission is higher now (with minimal NPIs) than in (say) May 2020 (citation required).
So this will remain an endemic illness and noone is likely to avoid it. And society can 'go forward' in a rejuvenated, relatively relaxed way, where individuals can assess, with a good basis of knowledge, their own risk, and take mitigating measures accordingly.
Better ventilation in schools would be good as children are significant vector.
KnittyNorah
Über Member
- Location
- The Frozen North (of England)
Well, I went for my final blood draw of the clinical trial prior to getting my autumn booster. Whatever I had in spring - and it was either the original Moderna Spikevax or the new Omicron-tweaked one - I had no side-effects that I remember, maybe a sore, slightly stiff upper arm and a bit of tiredness. Anyway, at the trials centre (which is an annexe to a large GP surgery) I'd been through the health check and blood draw and said right, now to sort out my autumn booster. The research nurse asked 'would you like it now? We've just got a message from the pharmacist that she's got a few doses left over from this morning's session, and they need to be used within the next hour?'
So I got it there and then.
Slightly sore, stiff arm now. This was, of course, the tweaked Spikevax.
Apparently I still have high levels of T-cell immunity from my original A-Z vaccines, but no recent 'natural' antibodies from an infection - those present are all artificially (ie vaccine) mediated, so it doesn't look like I've even had an asymptomatic/subclinical infection.
YET.
So I got it there and then.
Slightly sore, stiff arm now. This was, of course, the tweaked Spikevax.
Apparently I still have high levels of T-cell immunity from my original A-Z vaccines, but no recent 'natural' antibodies from an infection - those present are all artificially (ie vaccine) mediated, so it doesn't look like I've even had an asymptomatic/subclinical infection.
YET.
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
Neither of us here have had Covid.
Not been taking any significant precautions for some time now.
Both have had 3 jabs to date and booster due next week.
Me 65, she 59.
We put it down to country living and hence avoidance of mass transit systems.
^^^^ possibly cobblers but the best reason for non infection that we are currently able to hypothesise.
Not been taking any significant precautions for some time now.
Both have had 3 jabs to date and booster due next week.
Me 65, she 59.
We put it down to country living and hence avoidance of mass transit systems.
^^^^ possibly cobblers but the best reason for non infection that we are currently able to hypothesise.
But the evolved beast is very different from the original beast plus the vaccine mitigates against serious disease.
PLUS :Not everyone with a compromised immune system has been as careful as your friends appear to have been.
I'm on daily Chemo meds, was supplied with Vitamin D without asking, was sent special "to be couriered" PCR kits, and have had 6 jabs plus covid in the very first wave.
We have been very relaxed all through - locking away in complete isolation (as a very good friend did) we viewed as a living hell. we followed the rules to the letter but did not hide away.
