Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[Dogtrousers]

This is very vague, verging on the useless: Friend of mine tested positive not long after xmas. His wife remained negative. Fortunately for them they live in a big house so could keep away from each other. He has now tested negative. I don't have all the details but I think he was unwell but not seriously ill. So another anecdotal report of a triple jabbed person not being hit too hard by what may (probably?) have been Omicron.

My wife and I have managed to remain unscathed throughout.

In other news, my local chemist has LFTs.

 

[classic33]

Vaccine must be giving you a bit of protection, maybe.

The one shot/jab?
It's the first vaccination I've ever had.
I did watch as others came back into the class with sore/dead arms when they gave them at school.

 

[Julia9054]

I think alot of it is down to luck. Gawd knows how I haven't had it given that I must have been exposed lots of times in school. Lots of my colleagues have had it. I don't know any who are not vaccinated and boosted.

 

[gbb]

Did a welfare run this motning, took some food, nappies etc to our DILs, grandson (8) tested positive yesterday, today grandaughter (5) tested positive too. Both feel a little poorly, grandaughter Imogen said she wanted steak slice, duly brought by us, cooked by mum and eaten . When i feel unwell, slightly spicy food seems to hit the spot, perhaps she finds the same.

 

[gbb]

I think alot of it is down to luck. Gawd knows how I haven't had it given that I must have been exposed lots of times in school. Lots of my colleagues have had it. I don't know any who are not vaccinated and boosted.

I often wonder the same, large factory, hundreds of workers, many who dont seem to give a ....yet i havnt had it (yet)
In my wifes year at at school, circa 60 children, over 50% infected or self isolating plus a good few teachers /support staff.
Self discipline perhaps ? I use sanitiser regularly, if i use a vending machine i sanitise, stuff like that. Mask wear whenever i can..

Is it a good thing ?...is it better to get infected and build (hopefully) some resistance ? But then my mum (91) deserves protecting.

Its a conundrum, the whole thing.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

This is very vague, verging on the useless: Friend of mine tested positive not long after xmas. His wife remained negative. Fortunately for them they live in a big house so could keep away from each other. He has now tested negative. I don't have all the details but I think he was unwell but not seriously ill. So another anecdotal report of a triple jabbed person not being hit too hard by what may (probably?) have been Omicron.

My wife and I have managed to remain unscathed throughout.

In other news, my local chemist has LFTs.

But can you get pregnancy kits?

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Is it a good thing ?...is it better to get infected and build (hopefully) some resistance ? But then my mum (91) deserves protecting.

Its a conundrum, the whole thing.

The problem with “get infected” to develop immunity you don’t know how you personally will handle it. You might be one who ends up seriously ill.

We all have different immune responses. You’ll see this where one partner gets pretty ill with a respiratory disease. Their partner, who even shares a bed with them, so gets as exposed as is possible. Doesn’t even show a snifter of being ill.

 

[gbb]

The problem with “get infected” to develop immunity you don’t know how you personally will handle it. You might be one who ends up seriously ill.

We all have different immune responses. You’ll see this where one partner gets pretty ill with a respiratory disease. Their partner, who even shares a bed with them, so gets as exposed as is possible. Doesn’t even show a snifter of being ill.

Quite right of course, another conundrum in itself.

 

[Bazzer]

Mum seems to have escaped largely unscathed. After testing positive, she had a cough and gets tired, (but she is 91). She's been negative for about a week now and the cough has gone.
By contrast my sister is having a rough time, despite being fully jabbed and boosted. She tested positive a couple of days before Christmas. Still struggling to speak at much above a whisper and totally drained. Based upon her progress since the start of the year, there are doubts as to whether she will be up to travelling in 10 days to an Aunt's funeral.

 

[Julia9054]

The problem is that as humans we are programmed to look for patterns. Whilst there are obviously patterns in who dies/gets seriously ill and who gets infected at a population level, our brains are trying to find the patterns from our own little lives and the people we know.

 

[gbb]

The problem with “get infected” to develop immunity you don’t know how you personally will handle it. You might be one who ends up seriously ill.

We all have different immune responses. You’ll see this where one partner gets pretty ill with a respiratory disease. Their partner, who even shares a bed with them, so gets as exposed as is possible. Doesn’t even show a snifter of being ill.

A sobering thought (and deep down, I knew its a possibility anyway) was the news report of an unvaccinated Czech folk singer (57) who died two days after falling il...after she deliberately exposed herself to family members with the virus.

 

[Johnno260]

The problem with “get infected” to develop immunity you don’t know how you personally will handle it. You might be one who ends up seriously ill.

We all have different immune responses. You’ll see this where one partner gets pretty ill with a respiratory disease. Their partner, who even shares a bed with them, so gets as exposed as is possible. Doesn’t even show a snifter of being ill.

There have been some studies from John Hopkins and ZOE saying the protection from infection is very hit and miss, some people actually gain very little if any protection what so ever, the ZOE study said the same as well.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea.../covid-natural-immunity-what-you-need-to-know

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-vaccine-natural-immunity-difference

 

[Ajax Bay]

the ZOE study said the same

Thought I'd just paste in what I think is the relevant text in that (NB Oct 2021, pre-Omicron so %ages now not as good):
"We know that it’s possible to be reinfected with COVID-19 after either vaccination or natural infection. Our data shows that two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine give 71% protection against infection, while two doses of the Pfizer vaccine provide 87% protection.
"By contrast, an unvaccinated person with a previous COVID infection has only 65% protection against catching it again, clearly shown that if considered separately - vaccines offer greater protection against COVID-19 than natural antibodies
"However, we also found that being double vaccinated on top of having previously had COVID-19 actually provided an extra protection boost. "

 

[Johnno260]

I mean

Thought I'd just paste in what I think is the relevant text in that (NB Oct 2021, pre-Omicron so %ages now not as good):
"We know that it’s possible to be reinfected with COVID-19 after either vaccination or natural infection. Our data shows that two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine give 71% protection against infection, while two doses of the Pfizer vaccine provide 87% protection.
"By contrast, an unvaccinated person with a previous COVID infection has only 65% protection against catching it again, clearly shown that if considered separately - vaccines offer greater protection against COVID-19 than natural antibodies
"However, we also found that being double vaccinated on top of having previously had COVID-19 actually provided an extra protection boost. "

it reinforces the message to get vaccinated in my eyes, you have more protection and also an extra boost if you happen to get infected with vaccination.

I saw it hadn't been updated for a little while, hopefully the data will be updated in the near future.

 

[C R]

Also something that is often forgotten when talking about building herd immunity. In all cases where there's herd immunity, measles, mumps, polio ..., herd immunity was achieved through mass vaccination. There's no single disease for which herd immunity was achieved by natural means, that is, allowing mass infection with covid will not lead to herd immunity against covid.