Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[Flick of the Elbow]

An email from the local CTC group this evening states their intention to still go ahead with clubruns in spite of the new rule of 6 and the no more than 2 households rule. Apparently a clubrun counts as ‘organised sport’ ! This is utter nonsense, a CTC clubrun is no different from a group of pals meeting up and going to a cafe together. There is no way that going to a cafe should be allowed to come under the organised sport exemption.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

An email from the local CTC group this evening states their intention to still go ahead with clubruns in spite of the new rule of 6 and the no more than 2 households rule. Apparently a clubrun counts as ‘organised sport’ ! This is utter nonsense, a CTC clubrun is no different from a group of pals meeting up and going to a cafe together. There is no way that going to a cafe should be allowed to come under the organised sport exemption.

There isn’t a two household rule

 

[fossyant]

There isn’t a two household rule

There will be in Scotland

 

[byegad]

Hi Everyone. Just checking in after a while.

1. We, Lady Byegad and myself, plus extended family which includes 2 key workers, are AOK.
2. Our, Lady Byegad and myself, decision to ignore the relaxation of lockdown and keep ourselves to ourselves has paid off, and given that local schools are reporting cases already and 3 of the 5 biggest towns in our area are on a watch/at risk list, we are feeling pretty smug that we didn't rush out to attractions, pubs or shopping centres.
3. In our little walks, and runs out in the car, no stopping where there are any people about, we've noticed people wearing masks with their noses uncovered and others unmasked and chatting face to face under 2m and in a 'crowd'.
4. We are concerned at the gibberment's rush to normality which, to us, was too fast with steps being taken one after another, without giving each step time to succeed or fail, before the next 'relaxation' was announced. It's, sadly no surprise to us that we are seeing the infection numbers go up, and yes I know about more tests = more cases.
5. Also we are annoyed at the rhetoric used by Boris and his gang with regard to mitigation of the situation. One more 'World beating' fark-up or 'Moonshot initiative' which even his 'experts' doubt is possible, and I think I'll scream.
6. Our only concern at the moment is that the economy, which has understandably taken a huge hit, won't recover and many young people's future will be irreparably damaged. At the moment we count ourselves lucky that our working lives are over.

I wish you all good luck and please, please take care.

 

[wafter]

As much as I genuinely feared the effects of the virus initially, does anyone else feel that this is just being mercilessly hijacked as political tool of coercian, control and exploitation? Let's face it the establishment will always capitalise on any situation to chase their agenda (such as bailing out the banks in the financial crisis) and while their actions seemed largely legitimate and proportionate in the beginning, now it seems increasingly like they're clutching at straws for justification.

Looking at the latest stats, while our daily no. of confirmed cases has ramped back up and is now at 40% of where it was at peak, the amount of deaths has decayed exponentially since the first spike and shows no sign of further growth.

Tbh now I'm far more concerned about the measures being taken as justified by the virus than the direct effect of the virus itself..

 

[srw]

does anyone else feel that this is just being mercilessly hijacked as political tool of coercian, control and exploitation?

No.

 

[Mugshot]

View: https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1304363138347929600?s=19

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

Pleased to see an addendum from the Lothians CTC this morning, noting that although the ride itself is exempt from the rule of 6, Scottish Cycling are saying

restrictions must be adhered to outwith the organised activity. 6 people from 2 households. This applies to café stops before, during and after rides.

 

[newfhouse]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...england-doubling-every-eight-days-study-shows

 

[gbb]

As much as I genuinely feared the effects of the virus initially, does anyone else feel that this is just being mercilessly hijacked as political tool of coercian, control and exploitation? Let's face it the establishment will always capitalise on any situation to chase their agenda (such as bailing out the banks in the financial crisis) and while their actions seemed largely legitimate and proportionate in the beginning, now it seems increasingly like they're clutching at straws for justification.

Looking at the latest stats, while our daily no. of confirmed cases has ramped back up and is now at 40% of where it was at peak, the amount of deaths has decayed exponentially since the first spike and shows no sign of further growth.

Tbh now I'm far more concerned about the measures being taken as justified by the virus than the direct effect of the virus itself..

Yes and no.
I don't really do politics so take a very simple view on it and will no doubt be pulled to pieces but....
I don't really see any underlying tactics from the government. They have been incredibly benevolent regarding financial support, more than any Tory government in existence i should think (with the caveat it's not their money of course) , Furloughing, the Eat Out scheme, support for self employed etc etc Its never enough, it never can be but its been enough to get people through it. Of course it could be better but we're all going to be paying for this for a long time as it is. Of course they've made mistakes, big ones and used plenty of rhetoric that's fallen apart but i'd sooner they had an optimistic outlook than a gloomy one.

Yes it is being mercilessly highjacked for political ends by anyone who doesn't agree, The endless complaints from anyone negatively effected is endless and while i sympathise, no-one can fix all the issues everyone has.

While the infection cases increase, there WILL be an increase in deaths, it just takes time to filter through. The death figures will look different in a couple weeks i should think

 

[roubaixtuesday]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...england-doubling-every-eight-days-study-shows

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Meanwhile, SAGE inexplicably reckons the daily growth rate is no higher than 3%, and case might even be dropping by 1% daily(!)


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesannan/status/1304398401786843142


(James Annan is a climate scientist, expert in modeling, albeit not formally an Epidemiologist)

 

[DCLane]

Currently in a hotel near Fareham for tomorrow's CTT youth national time trial. The restaurant here has done reservations, ordering and processes really well. Congrats to The Lodge @ Solent compared to many others I've been in.

Oh, and my bike club's implementing a pre-booking system for future rides, capacity of 6, after we had 24 turn up on Sunday. If you've not booked, you're not in.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

I'm baffled by Boris' recent advice... don't have a test unless you have symptoms... but if we can transmit the virus for a fortnight before showing symptoms, it makes a lot of sense to have the test then you'll know whether or not you need to isolate yourself from immediate family, work colleagues or your gran. Is it all about the financial cost of a test?

I find this odd too. I'm totally opposed to the idea of expecting large numbers of people to pointlessly isolate themselves "just in case", when the vast majority of them won't have the virus. If we are going to limit the disruption & damage, this all needs to be done a lot more intelligently. That means making it easy for anyone to get on-demand tests whenever they want. If people could test themselves regularly they could ensure they didn't spread the virus, but everyone would still be able to go about as normal. Isolating perfectly "clean" individuals simply because no-one knows if they have the virus or not is extremely inefficient and economically costly, and is just not sustainable over a long period.

 

[PaulSB]

Currently in a hotel near Fareham for tomorrow's CTT youth national time trial. The restaurant here has done reservations, ordering and processes really well. Congrats to The Lodge @ Solent compared to many others I've been in.

Oh, and my bike club's implementing a pre-booking system for future rides, capacity of 6, after we had 24 turn up on Sunday. If you've not booked, you're not in.

Would you be able to provide some detail on the booking system. It's something my club want to introduce in an attempt to restart club rides.

Thanks

 

[IaninSheffield]

Would you be able to provide some detail on the booking system. It's something my club want to introduce in an attempt to restart club rides.

Thanks

One option you might consider Paul is Eventbrite, a ticketing system which is free if you're not charging attendees. I've used it for arranging attendance at talks, presentations etc. - worked well for our needs.
There are open source alternatives with similar features and functions if that's important to you.