Companies cost cutting on new bikes

[User33236]

Christ - it's a cassette! Sanity check needed somewhere.

No sanity check needed at all. Be a waste of time on me as I'd fail with flying colours

 

[mustang1]

Christ - it's a cassette! Sanity check needed somewhere.

It's a cassette!
The brakes
The brake pads
Er, wheels
Where does it stop?

Why even start cost cutting an ultegra di2 bike?

 

[SpokeyDokey]

It's a cassette!
The brakes
The brake pads
Er, wheels
Where does it stop?

Why even start cost cutting an ultegra di2 bike?

Just because it has Ultegra Di2 on it doesn't necessarily make it a top-end 'doesn't matter what everything costs' bike. Ergo, money needs saving somewhere to hit a specific price point.

What do UDi2 bikes go at these days - £2-3k? A decent amount of money for a bike but not every component is going to be 100% top-end.

 

[User33236]

Just because it has Ultegra Di2 on it doesn't necessarily make it a top-end 'doesn't matter what everything costs' bike. Ergo, money needs saving somewhere to hit a specific price point.

What do UDi2 bikes go at these days - £2-3k? A decent amount of money for a bike but not every component is going to be 100% top-end.

I don't think I, or anyone else, has said that everything else on a bike circa £3k should be 100% top end and, to be honest, I am amused, more than anything else, in the ways they shave a few quid off the cost.

And yes I did read the spec on the bike pre-purchase and bought it knowing the cassette was 105 (and further knowing it would likely have me changing it)

 

[outlash]

It's already cost cutting if it hasn't got Di2, you've got the cheapo Ui2.....

 

[User33236]

It's already cost cutting if it hasn't got Di2, you've got the cheapo Ui2.....

Wasn't this Ui2 you speak of?

(It shouldn't really have Shimano full stop if I was being true to the brand lol)

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Just because it has Ultegra Di2 on it doesn't necessarily make it a top-end 'doesn't matter what everything costs' bike. Ergo, money needs saving somewhere to hit a specific price point.

What do UDi2 bikes go at these days - £2-3k? A decent amount of money for a bike but not every component is going to be 100% top-end.

I know you didn't say that and I didn't say you did either.

My amusement with the thread is on the basis that this is really a definitive First World problem.

 

[Racing roadkill]

A lot of bikes which are very good V.F.M. ultimately compromise something, in order to be viable, from the manufacturers point of view. A very common 'skimp' are the cables, and some other components, which aren't going to affect the operation of the bike too severely (bolts, and screws and things) for example.

 

[ayceejay]

I don't think the 105 cassette is skimping in any way and is probably specced by more manufacturers than you realise.

 

[User33236]

This is the first new bike in a very long time where I haven't changed anything, non sizing / fit related, upon arriving home with it. Typically, with my most recent bikes, I've swapped saddles, wheels and / or tyres before going for a first ride then replace / upgrade other components as they wear out.

 

[User33236]

I don't think the 105 cassette is skimping in any way and is probably specced by more manufacturers than you realise.

The 'Dura Ace' bike in the range mine if from is also fitted with a 105 cassette and Ultegra front derailleur, crankset and brakes. This leaves only the shifters and rear derailleur as DA which certainly seems like short changing the buyer (although full DA would certainly have to up the price point it's selling at).

 

[bonsaibilly]

Times the £13 by how ever many 1000's of bikes they make and it soon adds up to a fair amount.

But they would pull the costs back in by charging more if ultegra cassette were fitted to each unit?

 

[ayceejay]

I think if you were putting this bike together yourself and rather than buy a groupset you bought the pieces individually you might make the same choice.

 

[User33236]

I think if you were putting this bike together yourself and rather than buy a groupset you bought the pieces individually you might make the same choice.

Personally, if I was putting together a Dura Ace bike, I'd buy a Dura Ace groupset. Similarly Ultegra = Ultegra groupset and 105 = 105 groupset.

 

[ayceejay]

Then if you are putting together an Ultegra bike you have your answer