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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Oh yeah Joe24, what's the A60 like for cycling, I've got to go to Nottingham at some point and not keen at faffing around?
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
Mini round abouts are dangerous.
Often people dont signal, and sometimes theres onyl a short gap or people dither.
I was taught by my driving instructor that mini round abouts are like a traffic calming measure, only really on urban roads thats speed limit is 30-40mph.
Theres one on a 50 road by me, scares the crap out of me. People charge up and you never know if they have seen it or not, so dont know whether to go or wait.
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
marinyork said:
Oh yeah Joe24, what's the A60 like for cycling, I've got to go to Nottingham at some point and not keen at faffing around?

A60 is fine. Ive been along it. There may be a better way to go though, someone i know cycled from Nottingham to Sheffield.
But yes, the A60 is a decent road to cycle on.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Joe24 said:
A60 is fine. Ive been along it. There may be a better way to go though, someone i know cycled from Nottingham to Sheffield.
But yes, the A60 is a decent road to cycle on.

No, I know ta. I'd rather have a simple route for areas I'm not familiar with that far south rather than weird and windy with loads of junctions if you know what I mean.
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
marinyork said:
No, I know ta. I'd rather have a simple route for areas I'm not familiar with that far south rather than weird and windy with loads of junctions if you know what I mean.

I do. Fair point.
You going right into the middle of Nottingham or someone on the outskirts?
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
marinyork said:
Northern outskirts.

Oh ok.
Well depending on where it is, there could be a simpler/easier way to get there, take a turn off from the a60 and go down another main-ish road(although not that bad)
 
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Rollon

Well-Known Member
Location
Chorley, Lancs
Thanks for replies. Bike collected and now being checked out at the suppliers. The only damage I can see is to the brake hoods on the drops. I dont how they got damaged but then again I cant remember how I landed, never mind the bike.
Now I know why that touring couple a few weeks ago were going through a big set of lights near to where I live, the pedestrian way, waiting for the green man.
Dave.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Rollon said:
Anyway, on the return leg on the busy fast road out of Southport and heading for the start of the cycle path that runs alongside from a large roundabout.
Think I know the one you mean and it can be very busy.

The driver approached full of appologies, he somehow hadnt seen me.

When I was knocked of on a mini-roundabout in Chorley the driver said exactly the same thing. Even told me how he was a cyclist himself etc etc. He apologised so often I had to tell him to stop!

Anyway my main points for you would be these:

You may find it takes a while to get your confidence back. Don't worry it will come.

If you pursue the driver for damages be prepared for a long fight. It's a year since my accident and the solicitors are still running around after each other - mainly because the driver initially refused to talk, which has now put him even more on the back foot.
 
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Rollon

Well-Known Member
Location
Chorley, Lancs
Thanks for that. I live in Euxton, Chorley.
The driver in my case admitted it was his fault straight away and the police officer took his statement at the scene that is why she has decided to send him on the driving improvement course. Hopefully this will simplify things. I am of course claiming, but only for whats fair, I am against grasping Bull---t claims. I am self employed and though still sore in places am going back to work tommorow.
Dave.
 
Joe24 said:
Leave more room on the exits just in case!

Someone i know, who i have cycled with in the winter on sundays and spoke to while ive been out training on week days had a car come out on his on Lowdham Round about.
His helmet had broken in the week ding phil and friends, so was out without a helmet.
Old man in a can hit him, old man coming out of the round about, he was going around
Bad head injuries, in an iduced coma, and will be/has had a metal plate fitted in his head.
It happened 2 weeks ago today.
Dont think your doing so bad!

Get your bike repaired then get back out:becool: Dont let the idiot driver put you off

I'm not sure how you are supposed to leave more room on exists? I've accounted for someone pulling onto a roundabout without looking either by braking hard (if they are just ahead of me) or accelerating hard (if they are just behind me). I have no idea how I'm supposed to leave more room?

Although I share Joe's emboldened sentiments, I'm not so sure on the inference that his friend would have suffered slighter injuries had he been wearing a cycle helmet. A collision with a car is not the same as a fall at 12 mph.

Mini round abouts are dangerous.

No they are inanimate objects. Other road users may make them dangerous.

Rollon,
As the others have said, you should find out about making a civil claim to repair the damage to your bike and replace loss of earnings. Hit the driver in the nadspocket.
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
ed_o_brain said:
I'm not sure how you are supposed to leave more room on exists? I've accounted for someone pulling onto a roundabout without looking either by braking hard (if they are just ahead of me) or accelerating hard (if they are just behind me). I have no idea how I'm supposed to leave more room?

Although I share Joe's emboldened sentiments, I'm not so sure on the inference that his friend would have suffered slighter injuries had he been wearing a cycle helmet. A collision with a car is not the same as a fall at 12 mph.



No they are inanimate objects. Other road users may make them dangerous.

Rollon,
As the others have said, you should find out about making a civil claim to repair the damage to your bike and replace loss of earnings. Hit the driver in the nadspocket.

Car hit his back wheel if im right, and his head hit the ground.........

You leave more room at the exits easily, be further away from them, not right over. Its pretty simple if you think abut it, be more over to the right then left, be further to the right and a car can come out so far, and brake, and maybe not get you
 
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Rollon

Well-Known Member
Location
Chorley, Lancs
Re that last post. In my case I left plenty of room and at the point of collision just before my exit (Which was very close to the 2 lanes coming on to the roundabout) I was slightly to the right of the primary postion. This guy didnt go so far and brake, he braked and then accelerated then braked hard as I was in front of him. I felt sure he was going to get me full on. I think his wife who had seen me clearly, had shouted to him, I dont hink he saw me at all until he hit me, thankfully by then I was almost past him.
Dave.
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
Couldnt you have gone left and tried to go back where he had come from, trying to avoid him? Or even shot out right, although i might have gone left if it was open/clear.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Joe24 said:
Car hit his back wheel if im right, and his head hit the ground.........

You leave more room at the exits easily, be further away from them, not right over. Its pretty simple if you think abut it, be more over to the right then left, be further to the right and a car can come out so far, and brake, and maybe not get you


Are you real Joe........ ????????? You have near to zero chance of reaction....cocky young attitude

Been there - don't you remember - last December (oh the poet)....

Speed...yeh - I match cars on the big stuff like Portwood in Stockport - a 4/5 laner.......... speed is suitable for certain 'junctions'.......... ONLY.

I'd been lit up like Blackpool, ridden like ultra primary across a small roundabout......one approaching lane stopped...... the other didn't... I was smashed into at 30 mph - yeh my watching the driver's non-reactions stopped me being killed....... ****ed up my shoulder for a bit.......... nearly 10 month's on it's still a legal mess..........

Joe24 don't start on the OP - it was the driver that messed up - you have a serious amount to learn...just a cocky youngster.....
 
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