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I wouldn't say it's beyond comprehension - I've explained why I think she should not be on the road - or at least not that road.
Close pass on an 8 year old...
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As I posted before
There are a couple of "wobbles" that are quite obviously a reaction to road hazards
I still think that we need to answer the question ......
What would I have done differently?
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[QUOTE 4533998, member: 45"]I didn't say there isn't room for improvement. You don't think she's at a standard adequate for that road. I disagree, and argue that the poor driving brings the risk, not the road nor the child.[/QUOTE]
Poor driving is an issue here and now - therefore the argument that her skills are not up to scratch is still valid, given the prevailing driving standards. You may not like it, but that's how it is.
Complaining about driving standards on an internet forum is not nearly as effective as developing someone's riding skills.
Poor driving is an issue here and now - therefore the argument that her skills are not up to scratch is still valid, given the prevailing driving standards. You may not like it, but that's how it is.
Complaining about driving standards on an internet forum is not nearly as effective as developing someone's riding skills.
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[QUOTE 4534016, member: 45"]So you think the girl shouldn't be on the road because of the risk from poor driving.[/QUOTE]
That's one way of looking at it, but it's not the whole story. If it was my daughter, I would probably look at improving her skill level before letting her out on roads like that. The risk from poor driving is there, regardless of whether we like it or not. The best we can do right now is give kids as much riding/handling skill as possible to make them as safe as possible.
That's one way of looking at it, but it's not the whole story. If it was my daughter, I would probably look at improving her skill level before letting her out on roads like that. The risk from poor driving is there, regardless of whether we like it or not. The best we can do right now is give kids as much riding/handling skill as possible to make them as safe as possible.
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[QUOTE 4534071, member: 45"]Because you've said that a certain level of cycling competency is required for road use.[/QUOTE]
For an eight year old, who appears to be short of skills and confidence in the clip, yes. Not sure 'required' is a word I have used though, as that has legislative implications. 'Preferred' would be a better word in this context.
As far as I'm aware, this discussion relates to the young girl in the clip and is not a commentary on the level of cycling skill held by the population at large.
For an eight year old, who appears to be short of skills and confidence in the clip, yes. Not sure 'required' is a word I have used though, as that has legislative implications. 'Preferred' would be a better word in this context.
As far as I'm aware, this discussion relates to the young girl in the clip and is not a commentary on the level of cycling skill held by the population at large.
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Please don't take this personally, I am not telling you what to do. ...... It does annoy me though when I feel that fellow cyclists have been "bullied" off the roads
I had a bad accident about 20 years ago (#pelvis, #hip, #clavicle, #ribs, #skull) and I would deliberately avoid the place where it happened - Despite a longer and less safe detour.
It took me about 6 months to bring myself to take myself back along that route and another 3 months before I felt "comfortable" using it on a daily basis
It took me time, but I overcame that fear and it may be that after this time you can reassess the situation.. however you must feel comfortable with that decision
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Think about what you just said. Residential areas generally have lots of cars travelling to/fro. Public parks generally have lots of people driving in and out of them. Built up areas with a lot of traffic and a lot of roadside parking and side roads/junctions. What you are describing is the exact opposite of a safe environment for an 8yo to cycle in. Ironically, that seems to be self-evident from the clip.
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Sara_H
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Then where is? Where do people with children safely ride? In parks? What about if they're trying to actually get somewhere?
subaqua
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https://www.thediveforum.com/showthread.php?21606-Bloody-cyclists!!&p=343179#post343179How anyone can defend the driver or say the girl shouldn't be on the road is beyond comprehension. As for the helmet stuff...
I am at point of giving up with internet
Andy_R
Hard of hearing..I said Herd of Herring..oh FFS..
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Where, in the video, is this "a lot of traffic"? Yes, there is roadside parking, but the carriage way is wide enough to allow a cyclist and oncoming traffic to ride along it at the same time.Residential areas tend to have lots of traffic coming to and fro at certain times of day. Mainly though, they are quiet. The clip shows an area that is more than safe for an 8 year old accompanied by an adult - if It wasn't sae for her to ride there accompanied, then it wouldn't be safe for the accompanier. I would love to know what level of training you had to run Go - ride sessions, as you seem to be a tad shall we say, risk averse.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
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Surely the only way to get road sense is to ride on roads. It doesn't matter if you're a beginner aged 8, 18 or 48... road sense comes with experience.
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