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SquareDaff

SquareDaff

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I'm after some help please? My bike is now totally stripped except for the bottom bracket. Can someone advise how to remove this (pictures included) and what tools I might need please? I assume the 4 indentation soft metal ring on the non drive side is some sort of lock nut? I had a go at removing it last night but the tool I was using (from my Aldi tool kit) just kept sliding off.

Picture of Non Drive side
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Picture of Drive Side:
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Assuming bike is British and has British Thread

The first thing to remember is that the cranks move one way but actually work to move the BB shell in the reverse direction.

So on the left the cranks move anti-clockwise so turn the shell clockwise - hence the thread tightens turning clockwise. ( If the thread tightened A/C then it would work loose.)

On the right the cranks move clockwise so the shell will turn anti-clockwise - the thread tightens turning anticlockwise.

So to undo the left BB shell needs to turn anti-clockwise

The right needs to turn clockwise.

Next.

You have two sides to these old type BB's.

The fixed cup (right hand side ) which comprises of a BB shell (threaded as above) and a locknut (which will be threaded the other way so as it locks).

The other side is called the adjustable cup and is a single threaded shell with hexagonal sides.

You see bikes with the adjustable cup on the left and some bikes have it on the right - in the pic below and with yours it is on the left.

So what you need do is

a) Remove the bottom pic side first. This is on the right so undo by turning clockwise.

Then take the axle and bearings out.

b) You then need to look at pic 1. One part (usually but not always the bigger outer piece) is the locknut so needs to unscrewed. This will unscrew in a clockwise direction.

Then undo the BB shell which will undo in an anti-clockwise direction.

* Make sure you identify which nut is which*

a spanner will undo the small nut and the big ring with notches is undone with one of these (there is a smaller version commonly available).

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SquareDaff

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Assuming bike is British and has British Thread
It was built in Sheffield so I assume so.
a spanner will undo the small nut and the big ring with notches is undone with one of these (there is a smaller version commonly available).
Has the spanner got a name (i.e. lock nut spanner?). Thanks for all your help on this so far. Much appreciated!!!
 
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The nice man at my LBS had the right tool and loosened the locking nut for me. I had the tools to do the rest. It looks in good condition - just a little gunked up. I only have the quill stem to remove now.

Quick question - I've taken out the stem bolt and loosened the headset. When I do this I can move the forks up and down and expose the bearings at both the top and bottom (both gunked up). I could service them that way but I want to do a proper respray job - so want the forks out of the frame. I think my stem is probably an expander type and I've read these can get "stuck" and can be freed with a couple of strikes from a rubber mallet.

Is this right? If so, how much force and in what direction? I assume upwards away from the forks?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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Oh yes, bottom brackets and chainring bolts - guaranteed to lose skin !
 

rbreid

Old git on old bikes
Stuck stem, reinsert the top bolt screw down till 1/8 inch from stem then strike hard with hammer, piece of wood or leather in between to avoid damage. This releases the expander or wedge from bottom of stem and stem should then be removable with a bit of turning wiggling with upward pressure.
 
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Thanks to everyones advice I managed to strip the frame back - and have now resprayed it so that it looks like this:
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Working on the recreation of the original decals now before I can add the contrasting down tube and seat tube piping (I need the decals to work out sizing) and before applying the lacquer. So once again - thanks for all the help!!
 
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SquareDaff

SquareDaff

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Stuck stem, reinsert the top bolt screw down till 1/8 inch from stem then strike hard with hammer, piece of wood or leather in between to avoid damage. This releases the expander or wedge from bottom of stem and stem should then be removable with a bit of turning wiggling with upward pressure.
Cheers - this worked a treat!
 
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