Car tax (again)

[CXRAndy]

Subaru WRX STi

Subaru were renowned for over rich fuelling. My 97 Impreza Turbo ave 22mpg.

When I had it tuned from 220bhp to 300bhp, I got far better mpg from the remap of the ECU 28-30mpg

The early days of Apexi

 

[biggs682]

We drive easily 750 miles a week.

That's almost two months motoring for us .

 

[CXRAndy]

I did a delivery job as a 18 yr old. My first yr 100,000 miles.

 

[Drago]

Surely that could be got round by an increase in fuel duty. Big heavy cars with big engines and those doing a high mileage would pay more so similar to road pricing.

The whole point of the Drago Quotient (tm) is that pump fuel sales will decline sharply when you can no longer buy new cars to put pump fuel into.

No they don't. They hardly ever use brakes due to regen from the electric motor acting as brakes.

My experience is the tyres wear no faster than any ICE. I have nearly 200,000 miles with EVs so can speak with some authority on this point

We're on our third so can speak with some authority on that point and are finding that they do wear more quickly, particularly those on the driven wheels.

However, the country roads round here involve a lot of slowing and subesquent accelerating and cornering, rarely possible to keep a steady speed in a straight line for very long which is probably not conducive to good tyre life on heavy and torque laden cars. It might well be very different if Mrs D commuted up the motorway each day with the cruise set to 65.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Our journey is for our daughter's school run. It involves 4 miles of country lanes 2, junctions 18miles of 60mph single carriageway around 50 miles of dual carriageway. That is my journey in the morning travel time on ave 1hr30.

A daily run of 144 miles a ridiculous distance to attend a school!

Is that through necessity or preference of school?

 

[Ming the Merciless]

The Tesla Model 3/Y and Nissan Leaf have full stop without brakes

Well they are braking using the magnets, but still braking. You’re still releasing particulates from the tyres. Your school run distance is crazy.

 

[Drago]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304389421015910

 

[chris667]

The truth is we are all going to have to accept that a lot of lifestyles that have been viable for people for some time might not be in the future.

Or we could ignore it and watch the world burn.

 

[cougie uk]

The truth is we are all going to have to accept that a lot of lifestyles that have been viable for people for some time might not be in the future.

Or we could ignore it and watch the world burn.

Definitely.

40 odd years ago the average family might have one car. Now it's often every adult has one. .

Cost of living rises might mean we need to go backwards which in some cases might be better for the planet.

 

[Drago]

And it's not just ownership, it's laziness and the subsequent pattern of usqge. Mrs D and I each have two cars, but if I can walk or cycle a journey I do, no excuses.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Or we could ignore it and watch the world burn.

That will be lots of peoples preference as their life(style) is more important than the world

Mrs D and I each have two cars, but if I can walk or cycle a journey I do, no excuses.

2 cars & a motorbike, but try not to use an of them if here is a walk/bike alternative, I even feel guilty about putting the bike in the car to ride new places.

 

[Drago]

Oh yes, and a motorbike too although I've not ridden that since before lockdown. I think my motorbiking days are behind me now.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Oh yes, and a motorbike too although I've not ridden that since before lockdown. I think my motorbiking days are behind me now.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[CXRAndy]

A daily run of 144 miles a ridiculous distance to attend a school!

Is that through necessity or preference of school?

Through preference

Well they are braking using the magnets, but still braking. You’re still releasing particulates from the tyres. Your school run distance is crazy.

Yet, we are not using up tyres any faster than when we had ICE vehicles. I put this down to the way EVs smoothly deliver power. We don't hoon around, exploiting every last electron of charge for fun.

Braking effect is done without friction material, which until not so long ago like petrol/diesel contained carcogentic substances.

EVs are far superior even though we are doing lots of miles- our personal choice.

Our Nissan Leaf is in for a health check today, dealer reported tyres are at 3.1mm on the fronts with 35,000 miles on them.

 

[Drago]

So 0.1mm from being scrap.