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DRM

Guru
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West Yorks
They said they did a vacuum test (which it passed) before adding the refrigerant. I query whether that shows anything because any seals (eg o rings) will be moving in the opposite way in a vacuum compared to when they are pressurised (if you get my drift)

I hope it got a splash of oil in too as well as gas, on all my vehicles the air con stays on all year round, as gas constantly circulating with the oil content keeps everything lubed correctly
 

screenman

Legendary Member
They said they did a vacuum test (which it passed) before adding the refrigerant. I query whether that shows anything because any seals (eg o rings) will be moving in the opposite way in a vacuum compared to when they are pressurised (if you get my drift)

It is a sealed unit, if it needed filling it has a leak, 53 years in the motor trade and I dislike cowboys.
 
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Drago

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I hope it got a splash of oil in too as well as gas, on all my vehicles the air con stays on all year round, as gas constantly circulating with the oil content keeps everything lubed correctly

Indeed, the oil also conditions the seals and prevents them drying out and shrinking.
 
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Fastpedaller

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It is a sealed unit, if it needed filling it has a leak, 53 years in the motor trade and I dislike cowboys.

I've seen reports ("scare reports" to get us to have regular checks?) stating the gas decreases by 10 % per annum even with no major leaks (small molecule leakage expected). Getting any idea of how to progress and approximate cost from Ford main dealer and also the garage that refilled the refrigerant gave me no confidence - Answers of 'a compressor is expensive, maybe £400' didn't fill me with confidence.

We live in rural Norfolk and finding 'experts' is difficult. To give an example, when Ethanol was added to petrol I asked a 'respected tuning garage' who prep cars using a rolling road and cars for track work if they had any J30 R9 ethanol resistant fuel hose for my kit car. They produced some 8mm hose with no markings on and asked why I wanted it to be Ethanol resistant! I said about the 'latest petrol' destroying hoses, and their response was "we've never had any trouble with this hose - it will be fine. Clearly no idea. I got it mail order from Car Builder Solutions (Fantastic service and knowledge). Strangely the only shop or factor locally with knowledge was the Motor spares and cycles shop, they didn't stock it, but at least they knew of it and the problems of ethanol.
 

Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
Good practice is to leave it on, Merc years ago had an economy button instead of A/c on/off, you were encouraged to leave it on permanently.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Good practice is to leave it on, Merc years ago had an economy button instead of A/c on/off, you were encouraged to leave it on permanently.

My mazda has an eco aircon button but, I've never actually looked at what it meant. Perhaps really ought.

Personally, I rarely ever ever use aircon, while others will tell you it makes virtually no difference to fuel consumption, mine always has. I drive for economy, know quite well what the car will achieve, aircon always increases consumption in my case.
That said, all my cars from the 70s 80s and probably the 90s never had it so I just never felt the need.
I will run it occasionally but that's all, just to try to keep it in some kind of working order.
 

screenman

Legendary Member
My mazda has an eco aircon button but, I've never actually looked at what it meant. Perhaps really ought.

Personally, I rarely ever ever use aircon, while others will tell you it makes virtually no difference to fuel consumption, mine always has. I drive for economy, know quite well what the car will achieve, aircon always increases consumption in my case.
That said, all my cars from the 70s 80s and probably the 90s never had it so I just never felt the need.
I will run it occasionally but that's all, just to try to keep it in some kind of working order.

That button makes the car slightly more economical, so you may be interested in using it.
 

midlife

Guru
My Impreza automatically shut off the aircon if it thought you needed more BHP during spirited driving. Added an extra 4 BHP apparently.
 
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