Canyon Endurance Al 7.0 vs Cinelli Saetta Radical Plus advise

[User19783]

What I mean is the saddle position (height & fore/aft) should be set in relation to the pedals, not the bars.

Yep you are right,

A bike fit will no doubt sort that out,

But the question is, do you have a bike fit first then buy a bike ? And buy a bike to suit your needs?.

Or not bother with a bike fit and go with your own knowledge of how a bike feels?

That's down to op.

 

[S-Express]

But the question is, do you have a bike fit first then buy a bike ?

Personally, I would buy a bike and then not bother with a bike fit. Unless you have significant functional or physical irregularities, it is possible to achieve a good fit without the intervention of someone who raises your saddle and then charges you £150.

 

[User19783]

Personally, I would buy a bike and then not bother with a bike fit. Unless you have significant functional or physical irregularities, it is possible to achieve a good fit without the intervention of someone who raises your saddle and then charges you £150.

I think it was more like £200 and yes all they did was to raise the seat by 45mm brought the forward a bit leveled the seat and raise the stem.
But now I have a set of measurement which I use on all of my road bikes, all my road bikes have the same seat height, and the same reach.

Was it good money well spent?
I think so, I don't have any back, hand, knees or feet issues. (Yet)

 

[S-Express]

But now I have a set of measurement which I use on all of my road bikes, all my road bikes have the same seat height, and the same reach.

As they should do. But that's just good practice, as opposed to a validation for getting a bike fit.

I don't have any back, hand, knees or feet issues. (Yet)

Did you have any before?

 

[User19783]

Did you have any before?[/QUOTE]

I might of have, with the seat being low.

At the end of the day, it's the buyers choice.

Good luck to the op on your choice of bike.

 

[sebus]

many thanks for all the info. very helpful. can i ask what is your saddle height?

 

[User19783]

many thanks for all the info. very helpful. can i ask what is your saddle height?

The measurements from the pedal arm to the top of the seat, straight down the seat tube line, is 87cm.

 

[dim]

use this before you buy a bike (If you have never owned a bike and don't know what size you need):

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp

use the Eddy calculations for roadbikes... (it gives 3 different sets of calcs)

set the bike up to the exact measurements, ride it for a week or so, then adjust saddle height etc accordingly (if needed) .... it's very good and normally spot on

 

[sebus]

use this before you buy a bike (If you have never owned a bike and don't know what size you need):

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp

use the Eddy calculations for roadbikes... (it gives 3 different sets of calcs)

set the bike up to the exact measurements, ride it for a week or so, then adjust saddle height etc accordingly (if needed) .... it's very good and normally spot on

many thanks for link. will be interesting to see what size they recommmend...

 

[sebus]

The measurements from the pedal arm to the top of the seat, straight down the seat tube line, is 87cm.

cheers for that. i thought saddle height is generally measured from centre of the bottom bracket to the top of the saddle? just want to check yours as 52cm you mentioned earlier (tip of the saddle to the bars) seems bit too much for me. my saddle height is 73cm - i believe is right but I never had bike fit though.

 

[User19783]

cheers for that. i thought saddle height is generally measured from centre of the bottom bracket to the top of the saddle? just want to check yours as 52cm you mentioned earlier (tip of the saddle to the bars) seems bit too much for me. my saddle height is 73cm - i believe is right but I never had bike fit though.

Yes it is,
but many bikes comes with different length of crank arm,, (170mm/172.5mm) so it's best to measure from pedal arm, to the top of seat.

Have you been to Wiggle bike shop yet? If so what do you think?

 

[Tin Pot]

Cinelli rocks, and is Italian design.

Canyawn.

 

[S-Express]

but many bikes comes with different length of crank arm,, (170mm/172.5mm) so it's best to measure from pedal arm, to the top of seat.

Standard practice is to measure from the centre of BB rather than centre of pedal spindle, so you can measure between two fixed points. Simply add or subtract any difference in crank length into your equation afterwards.

 

[Tin Pot]

cheers for that. i thought saddle height is generally measured from centre of the bottom bracket to the top of the saddle? just want to check yours as 52cm you mentioned earlier (tip of the saddle to the bars) seems bit too much for me. my saddle height is 73cm - i believe is right but I never had bike fit though.

I'm 173cm and my Cinelli Experience (similar geometry) is a 51. A 52 is likely to be fine for you.

Seat and stem adjustments will vary on your body shape, and athleticism.

 

[S-Express]

Cinelli rocks, and is Italian design.

Actually, I believe the Saetta is a far eastern open mould design.