Cannondale Supersix 105 Wheel upgrade

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Citius

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Alternative word for faster. Or to go from one place to another in less time.
You still have to pedal them though. To paraphrase Goldie Lookin Chain "Wheels aren't speedy - riders are."
 
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Justinslow

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You still have to pedal them though. To paraphrase Goldie Lookin Chain "Wheels aren't speedy - riders are."
No but they can help, can they not? Hence every serious TT rider using deep section rims or tri spokes or discs.
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Does he have to be in that position or can he just soend his money on a more aero set of wheels like he asked......

My guess is he can and wants too, then he can work on fitness, speed, endurance while enjoying his new set of wheels

Can he not????????? My guess is he can....and will, regardless of what you say :smile:
 

Crandoggler

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Much like the thread where improving a sprint would be a fruitless exercise, I disagree. If you want deep sectioned wheels, then buy some.

I read that 'aero' wheels make little difference below 18mph and marginal gains above that. Whilst I'm not trying to sway your judgement, this is food for thought.
 

Citius

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They certainly can help - ironically, they can often prove to be of more benefit to slower riders than faster ones. But the OP hasn't actually mentioned 'deep section' wheels. He just wants 'speedy' ones.

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Justinslow

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Whilst I do agree with your basic view point - I regularly now beat plenty of riders during TT's with very "flash" bikes and very expensive wheelsets with my not so expensive set up (and I'm only a mid pack finisher).
New wheels may help the OP to go quicker, physcologicaly too, if you believe you are quicker often you can go quicker.
I'm also not saying the slower riders on TT's don't deserve the kit they have, if they enjoy it and want to spend the money on kit then why not, it's their life (and money) and if you took away that kit they might be even slower!
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Whilst I do agree with your basic view point - I regularly now beat plenty of riders during TT's with very "flash" bikes and very expensive wheelsets with my not so expensive set up (and I'm only a mid pack finisher).
New wheels may help the OP to go quicker, physcologicaly too, if you believe you are quicker often you can go quicker.
I'm also not saying the slower riders on TT's don't deserve the kit they have, if they enjoy it and want to spend the money on kit then why not, it's their life (and money) and if you took away that kit they might be even slower!
You probably beat them cause you are fitter, stronger etc than they are......just cause they got a nice flash TT bike it doesnt make them brad wiggins.....it just makes them smile more when riding the bike THEY want

Buy and ride what you can afford and forget what everyone else rides

I ride a Spesh Shiv TT bike with deep section carbons, im slow, overweight ans unfit, but if im going to put myself through 10,15,25,50 or 100 miles of TT pain. I want to do it on something that i will enjoy riding.....its not always about marginal gains or flashing the cash.

Its all about the enjoyment of ones said bike and sport
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
The OP hasn't actually mentioned 'deep section' wheels. He just wants 'speedy' ones....
But he did mention a more aero wheel too.......which normally means deep section and not shallow box section wheels

But i guess its down to ones interpritation of the question :smile:
 

Justinslow

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I did say this also, @jowwy [QUOTE="Justinslow, post: 3928409, member:
New wheels may help the OP to go quicker, physcologicaly too, if you believe you are quicker often you can go quicker.
I'm also not saying the slower riders on TT's don't deserve the kit they have, if they enjoy it and want to spend the money on kit then why not, it's their life (and money) and if you took away that kit they might be even slower![/QUOTE]
I can see both sides now, where perhaps I couldn't before, but I do agree buy what you like and what makes you happy (but don't expect miracles from the wheels)
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
And your opinion on that wheelset is what? I don't see how your answer is any more helpful than anyone else's. If the answer to the question is just "buy what you want, whatevs" then this buying advice subforum has no reason to exist and is just taking up valuable server space that could be better spent on duckface selfies and pictures of kittens.

OP: Sorry about this, I did try to warn you.
i dont have an opinion on the wheelset as i have never ridden them or test ridden them.....so as per everyone else my opinion would be just circumstantial

my advice would be buy what the heart desires, even if you havent exhausted all your own performance gains.....because as you say - this subforum would be irrelevant if people kept on answering don't bother, just lose weight as theres no benefit to be gained............but dont let that worry you winjim
 

winjim

Smash the cistern
@SK1PPER if you're still watching...

Basically what the above argument boils down to is this. The one thing that will make you go faster is you. Your strength, your technique, your training. Better wheels will make you go faster, but the improvement will be imperceptibly small unless you are already riding quickly and more importantly, consistently. Now you may already understand this, but there are certainly those who don't, who think that a new set of wheels will suddenly shave minutes off their TT times when perhaps seconds or even fractions of seconds is closer to the truth, which is why some forum members feel the need to remind you of this.

The counter argument seems to be that if you have £600 burning a hole in your pocket then you should be able to spend it on what you want. This is certainly true, and some folk just like having shiny new stuff but there is no point spending such a large sum having unrealistic expectations of what performance improvements you will see.

So think about what riding you are doing, how else you can improve and what you realistically expect from your new wheels before you make a decision. £600 is a lot of money and it would be bad if you felt it was a waste in the end.

As you can probably tell, this is a subject that comes up frequently and some forum members do hold what you might call passionate opinions.

All that being said, if you do decide to go for some new aero wheels (and I am no expert btw), Campagnolo have a good reputation and those Bullet 50s look well priced.
 
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