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It fits. Except they don't swoop from behind you on pavements, try to overtake on the inside, ride the wrong way down a painted cycle lanes etc...Everytime I see someone on a pavement on an escooter I'm tempted to ask them why their legs don't appear to be working. Its all about zero effort, encourages laziness. See above post for obese people in hover chairs:blush:

About 40 people are killed by drivers on pavements every year. https://www.roadpeace.org/pedestrian-pavement-deaths-2/
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
About 40 people are killed by drivers on pavements every year. https://www.roadpeace.org/pedestrian-pavement-deaths-2/

I'm aware of that. The worst thing about escooters is that you really can't hear them coming. At least a car coming from behind would create a commotion I suppose. I was stood in a bus shelter couple of years ago, on a platform only for passengers. Stepped out of it to look down the road for my bus and bloke shouted at me, 'Look out!'. Turned around to see woman on hire escooter approaching from behind, totally silent. Shouldn't have been riding it through a pedestrian platform!. I'm of the opinion that to assist the public in hearing approaching escooters, they should emit an appropriate noise, something like..lay-zeee, lay-zee, lay-zee?. Might even sell a few ice creams given how slow they are:okay:.

I once saw three guys coming through Broadmead In Bristol, two on foot, the third wobbling around on an escooter trying to go as slow as his mates...:blush:. The desire to avoid physical effort is strong in some folk....
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I'm aware of that. The worst thing about escooters is that you really can't hear them coming. At least a car coming from behind would create a commotion I suppose.
No, there's just a small scraping noise as the tyres mount the kerb. That's all the warning you get. I see this happen everyday and I've a gallery of tyre tracks swooshing onto the pavement and back off because some people don't believe just how common this is. Many motorists really can't drive along a marked carriageway. They stray over the edge repeatedly, whether that's onto a pavement or into a soft verge. Haven't you noticed the edges of verges along country lanes are always muddy tyre tracks? That's why.

I was stood in a bus shelter couple of years ago, on a platform only for passengers. Stepped out of it to look down the road for my bus and bloke shouted at me, 'Look out!'. Turned around to see woman on hire escooter approaching from behind, totally silent. Shouldn't have been riding it through a pedestrian platform!. I'm of the opinion that to assist the public in hearing approaching escooters, they should emit an appropriate noise, something like..lay-zeee, lay-zee, lay-zee?. Might even sell a few ice creams given how slow they are:okay:.
Okay, maybe they shouldn't be riding that there, but why didn't you look before stepping out? She could just as easily been a jogger. But it's a classic "near miss" where you can't really know if they would have stopped if needed.

I'm not sure the sound would help. People might start to rely on it, and do we not care about people with hearing problems?
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
OK, so you're more worried about something silent that causes next-to-no injuries, than something killing 40-a-year after creating some commotion.

(Can anyone make this make sense?)

Escooters have caused deaths and its wrong to suggest they cause no injuries:
https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...alties-great-britain-e-scooter-factsheet-2022

Its just that as a pedestrian, I don't want to collide with a bone idle f-wit who's incapable of putting one foot in front of another.
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
No, there's just a small scraping noise as the tyres mount the kerb. That's all the warning you get. I see this happen everyday and I've a gallery of tyre tracks swooshing onto the pavement and back off because some people don't believe just how common this is. Many motorists really can't drive along a marked carriageway. They stray over the edge repeatedly, whether that's onto a pavement or into a soft verge. Haven't you noticed the edges of verges along country lanes are always muddy tyre tracks? That's why.


Okay, maybe they shouldn't be riding that there, but why didn't you look before stepping out? She could just as easily been a jogger. But it's a classic "near miss" where you can't really know if they would have stopped if needed.

I'm not sure the sound would help. People might start to rely on it, and do we not care about people with hearing problems?

Its here, I was stood about where the yellow X is. Why would a jogger be jogging down here, its a bus stop platform?. Not the best place to jog and certainly no escooterists!:

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Equally as daft to cycle down it.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I'm sure all you car owners moaning about other people being lazy and all about zero effort will back up their words by getting rid of their cars .
Unless you already have of course .

I have!
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Escooter fatality near where I work:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8wzn9d0vo

The incoming government in 2019 imposed the 'trial' on Bristol, time it ended I think. Paris has seen the light.
Privately owned e-scooter, probably not relevant to the trial, wasn't it? One death in a blue moon is far from the 5 deaths a day involving motorists, too.

Paris banned self-service rental e-scooters based on a vote with 8% turnout, no proxy or remote voting, held on a day where a marathon closed roads. Private and shop-rented e-scooters remain legal too AFAICT, unlike here.
 
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