downfader
extimus uero philosophus
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- 'ampsheeeer
Boxer Gary Mason killed in bicycle crash
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cheadle hulme
Guru
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- Llandudno
RIP Gary. Let the truth come of your death.
Some comments on the Daily Mail re helmets, mainly from Australians. Its inevitable I suppose how quickly helmet law blindness takes hold in the countries where it is compulsory.
Some comments on the Daily Mail re helmets, mainly from Australians. Its inevitable I suppose how quickly helmet law blindness takes hold in the countries where it is compulsory.
ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
- Location
- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
Looking at the damaged bike in the pics, I don't know what good a helmet would have done him?
cheadle hulme
Guru
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- Llandudno
Apologies if it wasn't clear; that was my point.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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- South Manchester
+1 Exactly........ massive front end mangled issues there.....
downfader
extimus uero philosophus
- Location
- 'ampsheeeer
The guy who died on the Itchen Bridge near here was said to have died because of massive head trauma at the time, it later came out he'd been wearing a helmet. IIRC he'd been hit at 40mph.
The point I always try to make to people is: dont rely on helmets, rely on good road skills instead.
Some Aussie idiot made the same comment about helmets in one of the HGV collisions..
gb155
Fan Boy No More.
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- Manchester-Ish
The guy who died on the Itchen Bridge near here was said to have died because of massive head trauma at the time, it later came out he'd been wearing a helmet. IIRC he'd been hit at 40mph.
The point I always try to make to people is: dont rely on helmets, rely on good road skills instead.
Some Aussie idiot made the same comment about helmets in one of the HGV collisions..
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Though there was nowt I could do about Mr WVM, so its not always as simple, its rare I wear a helmet tho.
downfader
extimus uero philosophus
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- 'ampsheeeer
Sometimes I dont wear mine. Say if its really hot and I'm offroad somewhere smooth like the Common. Or if I'm just popping around the corner shops.
You've only got to look at the New Zealand and Aussie stats to see that helmets aint that clear cut. Looking at that bike in the photo he didnt stand a chance.
DJ
Formerly known as djtheglove
- Location
- On my bike in the smoke!!!!!!!!!!
This is very sad, Having lived in Wallington for quite a few years, I have to agree the area is WVM territory Sandy lane and its junctions are notorious for speeding drivers that junction in particular is one of those places where people try and join the main road while maintaning there speed.
RIP
RIP
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
Independent on Sunday have given this tragic loss some coverage from the cyclists unprotected by police and courts angle. Perhaps some good may come of it yet.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...unprotected-by-police-and-courts-2179752.html
Cyclists 'left unprotected by police and courts'
Drivers who claim they couldn't see bikes are too often believed, say campaigners.
Greater protection for cyclists on Britain's roads is being demanded after a former British heavyweight boxing champion was killed on his bicycle last week. Gary Mason, 48, died after a collision with a van while cycling in Wallington, south London. He is the second cyclist to die in the UK this year.
Eilidh Cairns was crushed by a lorry in Notting Hill, west London, while cycling to work in February last year. The driver subsequently pleaded guilty to having defective eyesight. He was fined just £200 and given three points on his licence.
Emma Chesterman, a friend of Ms Cairns, said:
"He admitted his eyesight was not good enough and gets £200 and three points on his licence. It does not seem fair. We are bewildered by the whole system that treats cyclists' deaths in this way. It seems to be the attitude that you are putting yourself in the way of danger and therefore it is your own fault if it happens to you, which is not the same as if it were a pedestrian killed."
Cyclists 'left unprotected by police and courts'
Drivers who claim they couldn't see bikes are too often believed, say campaigners.
Greater protection for cyclists on Britain's roads is being demanded after a former British heavyweight boxing champion was killed on his bicycle last week. Gary Mason, 48, died after a collision with a van while cycling in Wallington, south London. He is the second cyclist to die in the UK this year.
Eilidh Cairns was crushed by a lorry in Notting Hill, west London, while cycling to work in February last year. The driver subsequently pleaded guilty to having defective eyesight. He was fined just £200 and given three points on his licence.
Emma Chesterman, a friend of Ms Cairns, said:
"He admitted his eyesight was not good enough and gets £200 and three points on his licence. It does not seem fair. We are bewildered by the whole system that treats cyclists' deaths in this way. It seems to be the attitude that you are putting yourself in the way of danger and therefore it is your own fault if it happens to you, which is not the same as if it were a pedestrian killed."
2Loose
Guru
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- Loughborough, Leicestershire.
Thanks for that Greg\Turnout, I just read the article and it is good that this issue has been raised in a section of the national press at last, although more examples of inappropriate sentencing would have added more weight.
The DoT says that we are protected, but it is such a shame that I have to agree with The Cycling Silk (Mr. Porter) in that the CPS and courts are not using enough imagination while charging. Causing accidental\circumstantial death would normally fall into manslaughter territory were it not done on the roads. This needs to change.
