bottle cage screws will not go tight

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jackthelad

Well-Known Member
Hi guys the screws on my bottle cage will not go tight and keep turning,is there any method to get them tight,I was thinking maybe puttting lock tight on the screw section or is there a better method any help appreciated

jackthelad
 

jarushby

Active Member
Hi guys the screws on my bottle cage will not go tight and keep turning,is there any method to get them tight,I was thinking maybe puttting lock tight on the screw section or is there a better method any help appreciated

jackthelad


It sounds like the bolts are not long enough (solution, get longer bolts) OR the screw threads of either the bolt or the frame have been damaged.

If you remove the water bottle holder completely, are you able to screw the bolts in?...Does the bolt get slighly tighter then "give way".?
 

battered

Guru
Also check out the ends of the screws, do they look OK or are the threads smaller than the rest of the screw? If you are lucky the screw threads will be softer than the inserts in the frame so they will strip first. Meanwhile, back in the real world...

There is a fix for this BTW, one involving proper engineering and the other a particularly nasty bodge.
 
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jackthelad

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battered I took the bottle cage off and tried the screw and the screw is still turning without getting tight.I think the insert is stripped does this mean that it has to be re-tapped, how much would this cost in the lbs or is there another way to sort it out

jackthelad
 

Alembicbassman

Confused.com
Had a Marin once with this problem, the threads in the boss were poorly tapped from the factory, you could see the swarf inside the hole. I just glued the bolts in with Araldite.
 

battered

Guru
If the damage is very light you can fix it by retapping the same size. Chance of success - about 10%. Proper engineering solution - fit a Helicoil insert of the right size. If it can be done, chances of success 100%, cost about £10-20. If it can't, drill and tap next size up, cost £10-20ish, if the insert has enough meat this will be 100%, if not it won't work. The bike shop may know the chances of this succeeding. How do you tell? You have a go...

Finally, there is a nasty bodge. Purists, look away now. This is only recommended for old bikes of low value. It's a bodge. Find a screw, any head, and quite long, that will fit in the hole and sort-of tighten up. Mix up a very small blob of Araldite or similar and put it on the threads. Wind it in with plenty hanging out and leave it to set. When it's set. cut the head off, and mount your bottle cage with a nyloc nut of the right size. Cut off the excess, file the end smooth. This screw will never come out so once it's in, it's there for ever. You can undo the nut but there will always be a threaded end poking out. Sorry purists, I know it's nasty, but it works.

SAFETY: DO NOT leave stray bits of threaded rod hanging out of your bike, once the component is on either file them smooth or fit a Nyloc nut which has a rounded end. In a crash exposed screw ends can make a hole in you, one of my friends needed surgery when he put a titanium seat clamp screw through his knee.
 
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jackthelad

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guys thanks for the replies the screw is coming out ok, you can feel the screw screwing into the frame but just does not go tight at the last section of the screwing.The bolt looks ok so has to be the insert,it is on a 2010 sirrus so it is an aluminium frame.I recon going thru the lbs for the rivnut might be the solution
any help appreciated
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L.E.D.

New Member
Had this problem with my Allez took it to work and the fitter discovered there's an insert in the frame that the bottle screw threads into and that had come loose. they glued it back in place and problem solved.
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
guys thanks for the replies the screw is coming out ok, you can feel the screw screwing into the frame but just does not go tight at the last section of the screwing.The bolt looks ok so has to be the insert,it is on a 2010 sirrus so it is an aluminium frame.I recon going thru the lbs for the rivnut might be the solution
any help appreciated
jackthelad

Would it be covered by warranty? I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
 
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