Black pro cyclists.

[trustysteed]

black and asian people on the whole are purely NOT interested in cycling, that's all there is to it. on the whole, they are just more interested in sports such as cricket and football. it has nothing to do with racism or economics.

 

[Paulus]

black and asian people on the whole are purely NOT interested in cycling, that's all there is to it. on the whole, they are just more interested in sports such as cricket and football. it has nothing to do with racism or economics.

At last, a decent answer. As minorities have lived in this country in any numbers for over half a century, particularly as cycle sport was very popular in the 50's and 60's why did football, cricket and even hockey show to be the chosen sport of many of the people who chose to settle in this country?

 

[Globalti]

Okay - so why is cycling so popular in Britain and nearer Europe?

My guess is the temperate climate.

 

[Paulus]

Maybe the same reason that American football, Baseball and Basketball are that much more popular in the USA and possibly Japan than they are in Europe. It is their sport, they understand it, and they grow up with it.

 

[MacB]

have you also considered parents in this? Cricket, golf, football, tennis all of these activities can be done at one location. You can supervise/encourage from the sidelines or you can leave the little darlings in the hands of the coach/babysitter. For cycling you'd either have to accompany them on the roads or let them go on their own. Then there's the flak you'd receive if your child was injured road cycling.

Pro sports are big money but cycling isn't right up there. Barring the odd natural/late comer, the level required at the top means a very young start in a sport. The facilities just don't exist for cycling in the way they do for the others.

 

[Mr Pig]

black and asian people on the whole are purely NOT interested in cycling, that's all there is to it.

I suspect that a big part of it, bigger than any physiological differences.

I would hope everyone agrees that all races are morally/intellectually/socially identical

What? Are you kidding? Even people of very similar racial background are often very different in moral and social values. These things have little to do with race and more to do with culture.

 

[Lizban]

Am I reading this correctly that some people don't think that there are physiological differences between the different races?

Surely it is clear there are? (Hence when I'm in SE Asia I'm 99% of the time the tallest person in the room by 6-12 inches)

It is really intresting reading some of the theories, its also notworthy (and slightly OT) that the Asian pop. of England is very poorly represented at top flight football clubs.

 

[02GF74]

well I don't know about all that but anyone who is denying there are physicolgical differences between the race is clearly wrong.

How many billions of chinese are there on this planet and how many chinese riders have appeared in any of the big tours? You see a film or program showing life in Chinese city are everyone is on a bicycle.

Going back to black people - look at the big buggers playing american football - these are decendents of the plantation workers that were selectedly bred to be big and strong plus a diet of big macs compare them to the spindly long distance runners in Africa - you telling me there is no physical difference? Open your eyes ofcourse there is.

Watch world's strongest man, usually shown on TV around Christmas - it is the norther eruopeans that win - look at the american footballers again, big buggers yet the 2 or 3 that have taken part just cannot compete at same level. And were are the billions of chinese?

And all this talk of lack of money on africa for cycling; there are black people in UK, in America, in Europe - surely there has to be some that can afford a bicycle? The answer to the question is they cannot cycle as their willys get in the way. simples.

 

[Jonathan M]

When the Commonwealth Games was in Manchester I went to see the mens road race on the Rivington course. Many of the African nations had entered teams of 1 or 2 riders even though the more cycling biased nations had entered as many riders as the rules allowed.

At the time the differences in infrastructures became quite apparent, with some African teams choosing not to bring bikes and source better equipment on arrival in the UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/commonwealthgames2002/hi/cycling/newsid_2144000/2144955.stm

One group of African nation riders even ended up on the M60 on a training ride, simply because it went towards where they wanted to be (Bolton), and motorways in the Uk are no longer clearly marked as to what types of vehicles & pedestrians are banned.

 

[chap]

I remember years ago hearing that black people had different bone structure or something which made them better at some sports, like running, and less good at things like swimming. Might've been a load of rubbish, I don't know, but there may be something along those lines that results in black people not being as well suited to cycling.

But then they can play music and dance like no white man can so I guess they win! ;0)

So are we to believe that there are no fishermen on the Earths 2nd largest continent, or at least Black ones?

People come up with all sorts of crazy theories hell bent on needless division, the really depressing part is that so many do not outgrow these infantile notions during or after puberty, indeed some cherish them.

People are effectively the same, the world over. You get all sorts, and our current 'racial' groupings are far too unrefined to have any meaningful contribution to academia, bar studying the power of the media / propaganda.

 

[Mr Pig]

People are effectively the same, the world over.

What, apart from the fact that they look, act and talk differently you mean?

 

[Norm]

People come up with all sorts of crazy theories hell bent on needless division, the really depressing part is that so many do not outgrow these infantile notions during or after puberty, indeed some cherish them.

People are effectively the same, the world over. You get all sorts, and our current 'racial' groupings are far too unrefined to have any meaningful contribution to academia, bar studying the power of the media / propaganda.

Even more depressing is to see such stuff written. Whether it is nature or millennia of nurture, different races display some inherent differences.

Different is not better, nor worse, it's different and blanket denial halts any meaningful study into the differences and how to exploit them for the good of everyone. Or, in the case of diseases, how to address them and minimise them for the good of everyone.

We have no issue with recognising differences between species of animal... indeed, such study 150 years ago led to the theory of evolution. Why do we deny it in humans, other than for years of conditioning by the PC "we are all the same under the skin" lobbyists.

Different is not better, nor worse, it's different.

 

[chap]

Even more depressing is to see such stuff written. Whether it is nature or millennia of nurture, different races display some inherent differences.

Different is not better, nor worse, it's different and blanket denial halts any meaningful study into the differences and how to exploit them for the good of everyone. Or, in the case of diseases, how to address them and minimise them for the good of everyone.

We have no issue with recognising differences between species of animal... indeed, such study 150 years ago led to the theory of evolution. Why do we deny it in humans, other than for years of conditioning by the PC "we are all the same under the skin" lobbyists.

Different is not better, nor worse, it's different.

Oh my goodness, not the whole specism debate again; and you've even thrown Poitical Correctness needlessly into the mix. I'll get back to you tomorrow (or perhaps some other time) on this, right now I'm off to bed.

 

[chap]

What, apart from the fact that they look, act and talk differently you mean?

And the Scots, Northerners, and those Southerners are inalienably different too.

 

[Mr Pig]

And the Scots, Northerners, and those Southerners are inalienably different too.

You're the one with the problem here, you're just to blinded to see it.