Best Star Trek characters

[captain nemo1701]

After our first was born we watched Next Gen and I think Voyager, every night at 10pm for months. Favourite characters were Data, SevenofNine, and Tasha Yar - shame they binned her off.

Not keen on the new films; Chris Pine has no charisma and Simon Pegg is terrible as Scotty. He wrote the crap scripts too, which explains a lot.

Actually, to be fair, he only penned the third one.

Paul McGillion - the Dr in Stargate Atlantis, went up for Scotty but Pegg got cast. McGillion got a cameo though in the 2009 reboot.

Star Trek was due to return in the 70's but they made a movie instead. The commander of the Epsilon space station is David Gautreaux, destined to replace Spock in the proposed TV series (aka Star trek: The Lost Generation) but lost out to a returning Nimoy. He got a cameo in the movie. Scripts for season 2 of ST TNG, some were written originally for 'Star Trek:Phase 2'

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

1,999. STiscovery
1,9999,9999,999,999: Lower Decks...why?....just,...why?

Discovery is just toe-curlingly bad. Awful.

As for Lower Decks - I watched one episode and struggled to follow the dialogue - they seem very strident and difficult to understand.

 

[Edwardoka]

Don't forget, Dr Who fought aliens & Blakes 7 tangled with the federation on planets resembling chalk pits in Surrey. In fact, other planets in B7 seem to look like damp autumn days in Suffolk.

I believe the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy TV show visited many of the same "planets".

Best characters:
1. Picard
2. Spock.
3. Scotty
4. McCoy just for the 'I know engineers, they love change things' line in ST TMP

1. I find it difficult to view Picard as a single character, since the characterisation swings around so much in the early seasons of TNG. From Season 3 onwards, he's masterful, but then with the movies with their necessity to have a three-act structure turn him into an action hero - and by doing so, ignores much of what makes his character so powerful. He wins through diplomacy and empathy, not from climbing exploding superstructures. As for ST:Picard's Picard? I have no idea what to think. He felt more like the old Jean-Luc than the movies did, but still, it's hard to escape the feeling that it was a 10 hour movie, and that ending. Abysmal.

2. I never really liked Spock that much, tbh. I think Brent Spiner's Data filled that position much more powerfully, although that scene in the Wrath of Khan has me blubbing every single time.

3. I much preferred the movie-era Scotty, when he was given some actual characterisation rather than fussy put-upon mechanic. The last outing for the character in the TNG episode Relics was sad but lovely, really bitter-sweet. I might go watch that just now.

Best show:
1. ST TNG
2. ST original series
3. Voyager
4. DS9
5. Enterprise
6. Star trek continues (fan made show, really check it out)
7. Fan parodies
8. DVD/Blu ray extras
1,999. STiscovery
1,9999,9999,999,999: Lower Decks...why?....just,...why?

Voyager... above DS9? GET THE HERETIC.

I will say that Star Trek Continues is decent and very faithful to the original series (including having James Doohan's son playing Scotty).

 

[captain nemo1701]

I believe the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy TV show visited many of the same "planets".


1. I find it difficult to view Picard as a single character, since the characterisation swings around so much in the early seasons of TNG. From Season 3 onwards, he's masterful, but then with the movies with their necessity to have a three-act structure turn him into an action hero - and by doing so, ignores much of what makes his character so powerful. He wins through diplomacy and empathy, not from climbing exploding superstructures. As for ST:Picard's Picard? I have no idea what to think. He felt more like the old Jean-Luc than the movies did, but still, it's hard to escape the feeling that it was a 10 hour movie, and that ending. Abysmal.

2. I never really liked Spock that much, tbh. I think Brent Spiner's Data filled that position much more powerfully, although that scene in the Wrath of Khan has me blubbing every single time.

3. I much preferred the movie-era Scotty, when he was given some actual characterisation rather than fussy put-upon mechanic. The last outing for the character in the TNG episode Relics was sad but lovely, really bitter-sweet. I might go watch that just now.


Voyager... above DS9? GET THE HERETIC.

I will say that Star Trek Continues is decent and very faithful to the original series (including having James Doohan's son playing Scotty).

Yes, HHG I think used the same Cornish Clay quarry which is now home to the Eden Project.

Reasons I like Voyager better than DS9:

1. Trek is fundamentally about exploration. Voyager was waaay out there in really uncharted territory.
2. Voyager didn't get bogged down much in federation stuff eg. Ferry Ambassador Awkward to the 'peace conference'. Enterprise thus becomes a taxi cab.

I liked Enterprise as it had a more 'pioneering' feel to it with all the stuff we love to look forward to....

 

[captain nemo1701]

Going off point a bit but do you notice(or is just me) that Picard and Riker are always pulling their tops down because they look too short.
You would have thought in the 24th century that they would have sorted out clothing shrinking in the wash?

There is a genuine reason for it!.

In season 1 & 2, the one-piece spandex uniforms had a habit of riding up the actors neck, making them uncomfortable, when they sat down. Patrick Stewart tugged on his when he sat in the captains chair and this jokingly became known as the 'Picard Manoever' after one episode featuring his way of dealing with Ferengi. Stewart is such a good actor, that in season 3 when they transferred to two-piece uniforms consisting of dungarees and a sweatshirt style top, he kept doing it as by then, it was the Captains mannerism.

In the first season, look closely and you'll spot some male extras wearing the 'Troi cheerleader' version of the uniform.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

There is a genuine reason for it!.

In season 1 & 2, the one-piece spandex uniforms had a habit of riding up the actors neck, making them uncomfortable, when they sat down. Patrick Stewart tugged on his when he sat in the captains chair and this jokingly became known as the 'Picard Manoever' after one episode featuring his way of dealing with Ferengi. Stewart is such a good actor, that in season 3 when they transferred to two-piece uniforms consisting of dungarees and a sweatshirt style top, he kept doing it as by then, it was the Captains mannerism.

In the first season, look closely and you'll spot some male extras wearing the 'Troi cheerleader' version of the uniform.

I'd never noticed that!

 

[Edwardoka]

In the first season, look closely and you'll spot some male extras wearing the 'Troi cheerleader' version of the uniform.

Yes, the skirted man on Encounter at Farpoint had quite the look

One of the best things they did for Troi was to give her an actual uniform. Pity they never got round to giving her anything to do other than to look conventionally attractive and say "I'm not sensing anything unusual, captain" in a terrible accent.

I really enjoyed the all-too-brief stay we got to spend with them in Picard.

Edit: damnit @Joey Shabadoo ninja'd me again

 

[bagpuss]

Off topic ?

Farscape for me . Aeryn Sun

 

[matticus]

One of the best things they did for Troi was to give her an actual uniform. Pity they never got round to giving her anything to do other than to look conventionally attractive and say "I'm not sensing anything unusual, captain" in a terrible accent.

Yeah, her first outfit looked ridiculous.

Did the early episodes also have junior female staff in short skirts? It's all a blur now ...

Troi was a big character in quite a few episodes. And she's from Saarf Laarndon!

 

[matticus]

In the first season, look closely and you'll spot some male extras wearing the 'Troi cheerleader' version of the uniform.

I have no intention of looking that closely, thankyouverymuch.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Yeah, her first outfit looked ridiculous.

Did the early episodes also have junior female staff in short skirts? It's all a blur now ...

Troi was a big character in quite a few episodes. And she's from Saarf Laarndon!

Wasn't there the thought/suggestion that her charactor had 3 breasts??
Will Riker would have been even happier

Marina Sirtis also appeared in a couple of the (Jeremy Brett) Sherlock Holmes TV series - the best interpretation, to my mind



And...........

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-aKbiZS_Uo

 

[captain nemo1701]

Wasn't there the thought/suggestion that her charactor had 3 breasts??
Will Riker would have been even happier

Marina Sirtis also appeared in a couple of the (Jeremy Brett) Sherlock Holmes TV series - the best interpretation, to my mind



And...........

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-aKbiZS_Uo

I think you might be confusing Troi with the Bond villain Scaramanga who had 3 nipples. Marina is now moving back to the UK apparently.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

I think you might be confusing Troi with the Bond villain Scaramanga who had 3 nipples. Marina is now moving back to the UK apparently.

Dorothy Fontana, one of the 'TNG' writers states here (about 14/ of way down)
https://ew.com/article/2007/09/25/star-trek-tng-oral-history/

 

[Profpointy]

Off topic ?

Farscape for me . Aeryn Sun

Or the grey woman ?

 

[Oldhippy]

I tried Farscape, only saw a few though. I will grab the box set from charity shops when they are open again.